Ok, on ACR again...

Just want to know, what's the first phase of your ACR?

eg:

1. Insert the card into the middle using Marlo's Tilt.
2. Insert into the middle and then do a P**s.
3. TC and then insert the card in the middle.
4. The way that Oz Pearlman used in Born to Perform (for those who knows)

For me, the card is clearly placed in the middle and a shift is done. After the shift, I'm two steps ahead of the people.

Anyway, why are you interested?

Name a card and spectator flip over the top card, 1 out of 52 will hit. Example the "Ace of Heart".

I did that on the gathering and Moses got HIT!!

Aha he was surprised :lol:

Hermann Shift if the conditions are right. Else tilt.

Ok, forgot to mention my reasons for wanting to know...

Was thinking about the degree of conviction after reading Strong Magic.

It seems to me, the best way to convince the audience in an ACR is to show them that the signed card really going into the middle.

Most of the time, due the method, we don't show the face of the card when we put it in. But if we ever want to show it, the only way (I can think of) is a shift or a p**s, which is actually a bad time to do so because as Ortiz put it, "it is the time when the spectators is expecting you to do something." So I;m looking for some ways to overcome this.

If at the first phase, you can convince the spec of the conditions, I would think it would make it easier to convince them at a later phases.

I see. I have similar thoughts as well.

"If at the first phase, you can convince the spec of the conditions, I would think it would make it easier to convince them at a later phases."

I agree fully and that is the reason why I use a shift in the first phase. The first impression I suppose. It is like eating at a restaurant or place. If your first meal there was great you would believe they have great food and keep going back. Likewise, if you first meal there was horrible, you will not believe they have great food and will perhaps never go back there.

I use a shift in the beginning because I guess mostly at the start people don't expect anything, that is provided they have not seen the effect before or you have not told them what you were going to do.

My final thought on ACR is that if people stop believing then we should move on. Maybe after awhile, the power of ACR will rise back again when people forgets about it.

Well, but you see, the magic has to get stronger and stronger.

So if you can really put it in the middle and make it to the top via a hidden method from the spectator, and continue to do so, then by all means.

But the spectator will be looking harder and harder each time, and each method has to cancel out the other. So, personally, I dont think there is a NEED to have the cleanest way to do so in the first phase.

Don't you think showing that you are really putting the card into the middle is probably the stronger thing you can do in and ACR routine? Why would you want to start your routine with something so strong, but then subsequently not show your spectator the face of the card that's going into the middle?


Zi An

ZiAn, I suppose that Alexander's post answered your question.

"the spectator will be looking harder and harder each time"

We all want to show the audience the card is really inserted in the middle by showing the face but we know that the more we want to prove the harder it will be for us to bring it back to the top.

One approach could be to not to show the face in the beginning and in further phases show the faces. The power of the magic gets build up.

Another could be to convince the spectators in the beginning and then when they have that firm belief that you really insert it in the middle, you could be able not to show the face.

Both approaches are fine, I guess it is up to self preference. This is why there are tons of way to do the ACR because people like to come up with new methods to show that the card is without doubt inserted in the middle.

You either start strong(but not take it too far) or end strong.

Actually, by flashing the face of the card doesn't necessary means it has to be the strongest phase. We can make the later phases stronger by making the conditions seemingly (not necessarily in reality) more stringent.

Eg:

The strongest phase in my ACR now is the last, which is the pop-up. It is technically not difficult at all but in the eyes of the audience, it is the most amazing. They would remember seeing the card visually jump up and probably not remember whether they saw the face of it.


Also, in Jazz Aces, one can actually flash the face of the 1st ace(optional). I think is a good way of "convincing" the audience that the other piles are the same. They would be scrutinizing you at the (wrong) time where the magic was supposed to be happening, but of course, they can't catch anything because you didn't do anything.

Normally for me the 1st phase i will use is Le Paul bluff p**s B)