What is this move called? It look unbelievable!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVko6MfboQ

IF i am not wrong....i think its a bo***m de**.


He place the 4 ace face up on the bottom, so.....

4 Aces is NOT face up on the bottom. That's why he's asking for a name (for reference i believe)

Never seen a move like that before, was wondering what's the name for it.

Greek Deal

Shade may wanna comment on this

It's a Greek deal.

There're several variations of it out there. The performer in the video is probably very good, but I can't really tell for a few reasons:
1) This particular handling isn't the best around - he uses the modified Erdnase grip, which is a giveaway whenever a person performs false deals. This grip provides a great amount of flesh cover and also reduces the amount of surface exposure between the cards you wish to deal and the hand holding the deck, hence reducing the difficulty factor greatly.

2) The camera angle is also too high for a fair view of the deal - all deals look EXCELLENT from this angle (even when you perform it like crap): just like passes.

3) It's probably a strike deal; which only allows the performer to deal a round of cards - potentially reducing its deployment in the field of magic; it's purely a gambling move. (Although there are numerous applications of this, I seriously doubt most people'll take the trouble - as it is, most are even too lazy to put in the effort to pick up a decent second).

The BEST version I've ever seen is performed by Allan Ackerman, who calls it the Minus ONE bottom deal. The best test of such deals is a live demonstration: video tends to lose a few frames and you can't really see the true deal due to the lossy framerates: this provides tons of cover (and misdirection) for bedroom magicians. Allan demonstrated this for us live last year (Fei, Jon and I were just next to him) and he completey blew us away. He has a detailed description of it in his book, Las Vegas Kardma. It is also an advanced sleight and one of the most difficult to learn; expect to invest at least a year just to get the hang of things even BEFORE you can start doing it.

There are only a handful of people I know who perform the greek deal here.

One of them is CK Long, Enrico's friend from IBM whom I've had the distinct pleasure to meet. He does some really nasty deals and has invested a great deal of his time devoted to dealing any card but the top card. He has an interesting take on the Greek that is very much akin to a centre deal. The apparent advantage of course is that you can perform this move ONE HANDED - which opens a myraid of possibilities to a performer. However, CK is a very very busy man and hardly has time for gatherings - it's easier to find BOTH Aloy AND Bernard at a gathering than to see him around.

Another would be Kenneth - llamalamer. He does very good work with a deck and he has some really slick deals as well. If you ever catch him at a gathering, do ask him to 'educate' you. He'd open your eyes to what it means to handle a deck of cards.

Shade

Thanks for that compliment, but erm... I can't do a Greek deal...

I do agree that Allan Ackerman's Minus One Bottom Deal is one of the best ones around. Darwin Ortiz also uses one that is an unpublished method by Fred Robinson too.

I feel that in practicality wise, there isn't much place for a Greek deal here as we don't usually burn cards to the bottom or use cut cards in games.

It's a great move to learn though, I have to admit. Maybe I should start working on it...:P

I always want to learn the bottom deal, sadly the first step is the toughest..

Fishing. Please do not ask for techniques and how-to.

LOL Sorry Kenneth,

I knew you did centres, so I figured the Greek should be second nature.

Either way, you do handle that deck really well. :)

Shade