Hi,

This is a short clip of me doing a few RVs. I'd appreciate if the exponents in coins can give me some comments and advices on how i can improve my RV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eiRhJsqSiE

p/s: If this clip violates of any rules here, pls feel free to remove.

Are you left handed?

I think generally it's pretty good. Except the actions are a little TOO deliberate. You are supposed to just be putting the coin in your hand. Don't make an "action" out of it. It looked a bit like you are stuffing it into your hand. Even if this throws them off, it could eventually lead them on to what's really going on.

My humble 2 cents.

Looks okay for a move.

Except for the one which you 'blow' and it vanish, the rest looks like and communicates to us what you're exactly doing. Which is NOT making the coin vanish in your right hand.

The first try was good.
But if you re-watch it again, you will realise that the second and third tries are just you rushing to do the move.
I think i mentioned this before in the forum based on my experience practising RV.

For the second try, I did not get much vision retention of the coin.
For the third try, you rushed even more by not having the coin placed further into the hand.

Fourth and five tries were better because I believe you did a video cut there? So the 4th and 5th were actually other set of tries. Am I right?

BUT THEY WERE NEVER BETTER THAN THE FIRST.


Credits to Dean Dill for this : Never put out your taking hand first, it tells people that you are going to do something funny and is unnatural. Both hands should come together at the same time, the co-ordination and timing will make more sense.

You have the advantage of the camera. After putting the coin into the right hand, the left hand is immediately out of frame. In real life, there might be a few who'd look at your left hand.

In order to make it look real, your left hand has to appear empty after putting the coin into the right hand. In this way, after the spectator looks at the left hand (which appears empty), they will then concentrate on the other hand. In your case, I can't tell how your left left hand look as it was out of frame.

Also, I suggest you change your tag in the video as with that tag, youtube will recommend some other RV video, some which includes tutorial.

I agree with magicdow he is the best person to ask advice about coins if u got chance ask him to guide u he is really good in coins =D

Thanks for the comments and advices...yea...i just started seriously practisng my coin sleights only like 2-3 weeks back. Before that...i don't do much coin magic...

To answer a few questions....

1) Yes i am left handed.

2) I agree that the actions appeared deliberate...as it is a deliberately executed move on its own. I wanted the experts to spot the flaws and weakness in my technique.

3) I have several tutorial videos on how to execute the RV i.e. David Stone, Jay Noblezada, Justin Miller and David Roth.

4) Yes, there were video cuts. I edited out the really bad ones in between, the ones you see here are not one after another.

It's going to be a steep learning curve for me Ha!

Video cuts is ok. The problem is, as Magicdow mentioned, some of us may not be able to comment further because only your receiving hand can be seen.

Whereas in RV, the thing that you need to look out is the hand that puts the coin. This is the one that most people can comment on and give advice.

The receiving hand will almost never ever get a critics, because it's job is only closing the fist :/

Try to re-shot the video so that we can see both hand. In that case you'll get better feedback. Like in my case here before, I get a nice feedback from Alexander ;)

So put up a video where we can see your most crucial hand ;) I believe you will get more positive feedbacks ^_^

First of all, I have always wondered why it is called the R-vanish. It should be called the R-transfer?

Nevermind.

Strictly speaking, a coin transfered from the finger tips of one hand to the palm of another hand is not called an RV if there is no retention of vision.

Don't think there is a standard way to do this move. Some cant really do it so they come up with 'variations' of the move. The best tutorial you can get is to undering the unlying principles of the RV and practice it till you get it. Everyone has a different beat and rhythm in their heart, so everyones movement and timing will be different. Personally, I learnt mine from watching Michael Ammar. His has the most rentention, and the least finger flash.

Key principles of RV (to note when practising):

1) Flash the coin
2) Other hand approaches to takes coin, or both hands join to transfer
3) hand stays together for as short as possible
4) Audience sees an image of a coin imprinted on the back of the retina
5) Because the coin is the most interesting thing to see at that moment, they must look at the coin, and not at the hands.
6) minimum finger flash please.
7) When the coin is out of sight, they will look at the hands. Which hand they look at will depend on you.


ZiAn

P.S. actually, talk so much here, i also think you might not absorb much. Why not come down to our gathering on the 31 Oct, at Toa Payoh, and we can session on this RV. I have seen a few of those regulars at our gatherings who can do pretty slick RVs.

The full name is Retention of Vision vanish. It gives an illusion that the item being placed in the hand is really in the hand.

Actually i do understand what you say :D I'll try to practice harder.

When you guys say from 2.30pm till late. May i ask how late is late? I've got work that day till about 6pm. By the time i rush down...it'll probably be about 7pm. Would you guys still be around by then?