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Title: Coin Ending


Alexander - December 24, 2009 04:09 PM (GMT)
Hello,

It seems to me that almost all one coin routine ends with a jumbo coin. No problems with that, just that I find the jumbo coin ending abit common.


Has anyone come across any alternate (strong) endings to coin routines?

MagicalLobo - December 25, 2009 06:23 AM (GMT)
End the routine with a news interview haha. Saw you on the news just now. Did 3fly eh?

muscleaxl - December 25, 2009 07:14 AM (GMT)
Oh... which news was that?

Alex is quite frequently on TV. haha... I spotted him quite a few times. What is it about this time?

Alexander - December 25, 2009 08:12 AM (GMT)
Hahaha, MagicLobo, that was funny, really got me cracked up. Yup 3 Fly.

Oh yeah, it was last night's news. Can see in the media corp website. Its about the magic situation in singapore during this particular christmas.


blue_mode_1 - December 26, 2009 04:41 AM (GMT)
Hi!

Cool! Maybe try making coin vanish with fire! Or do (hope you don't mind doing a coin+fire+card magic

effect) Jay Sankey's 'In a flash'

In fact, Lu Chen did this effect in a magic DVD of his.

Hope this helps!=)

(By The Way, Its my birthday today!)

Alexander - December 26, 2009 05:08 AM (GMT)
Interesting...


Happy birthday to you!

blue_mode_1 - December 26, 2009 05:40 AM (GMT)
Hi!

Haha. Thanks Alexander. Actually, since i'm a sankey fan, Immaculate Inception by Jay again was performed by Cyril and is a great opening/closing effect.

Hope this helps!

-blue_mode_1

alexlim - March 11, 2010 03:10 PM (GMT)
In palms of steel 1, kainoa harbottle shows how immediately after catching a coin that fell up, a fan of 3 coins can be shown. It can make for a nice ending to a one coin routine. Especially if prior to that, you did a trick with 3 coins.

LoyaLover - March 13, 2010 02:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (alexlim @ Mar 11 2010, 11:10 PM)
In palms of steel 1, kainoa harbottle shows how immediately after catching a coin that fell up, a fan of 3 coins can be shown. It can make for a nice ending to a one coin routine. Especially if prior to that, you did a trick with 3 coins.

Just to add on to Alex's point, in palms of steel 1, the move that kainoa harbottle touched on is very flexible and it could be quite useful in many areas. Having said that, it is a only a "SMALL" Bonus in any routine. The amount of work to put in the "Fingertip Catch" Muscle pass IMO is not worth the practice.

alexlim - March 13, 2010 10:02 AM (GMT)
Another good thing about it is that it looks much more elegant than just grabbing the coin, even without the surprise. To me at least.

kser - March 13, 2010 11:05 AM (GMT)
For me , i will just do complete disappear the coin for one coin routine

LoyaLover - March 13, 2010 12:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alexlim @ Mar 13 2010, 06:02 PM)
Another good thing about it is that it looks much more elegant than just grabbing the coin, even without the surprise. To me at least.

Nods nods* I agree! But ah, even kainoa harbottle fail to catch it rather often (or at least in his demo) hahahaha. Its quite discouraging for most coin workers.

Having said that, yes it is definately one pretty move.

Kser: I think complete vanishes are very tempting too! As much as I like complete vanishes, I think a complete vanish as a coin ending is only appealing to magicians themselves.

A laymen should see every vanish as a "complete one". Even the sharper ones won't be impressed by a complete vanish since they don't know how you did the rest of your vanish actually.

I think coin endings should not be a production or a vanish.

Possible coin endings

1) Transformation
2) Transposition (To Impossible Location)

kser - March 13, 2010 01:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LoyaLover @ Mar 13 2010, 08:42 PM)
Nods nods* I agree! But ah, even kainoa harbottle fail to catch it rather often (or at least in his demo) hahahaha. Its quite discouraging for most coin workers.

Having said that, yes it is definately one pretty move.

Kser: I think complete vanishes are very tempting too! As much as I like complete vanishes, I think a complete vanish as a coin ending is only appealing to magicians themselves.

A laymen should see every vanish as a "complete one". Even the sharper ones won't be impressed by a complete vanish since they don't know how you did the rest of your vanish actually.

I think coin endings should not be a production or a vanish.

Possible coin endings

1) Transformation
2) Transposition (To Impossible Location)

Usually my one coin rountine consists of:

-transformation as opening, then use the transform coin to continue the routine

- Transpostition

-Complete vanish/ vanish as ending, somehow it feels very grand


LoyaLover - March 13, 2010 03:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (kser @ Mar 13 2010, 09:31 PM)
QUOTE (LoyaLover @ Mar 13 2010, 08:42 PM)
Nods nods* I agree! But ah, even kainoa harbottle fail to catch it rather often (or at least in his demo) hahahaha. Its quite discouraging for most coin workers.

Having said that, yes it is definately one pretty move.

Kser: I think complete vanishes are very tempting too! As much as I like complete vanishes, I think a complete vanish as a coin ending is only appealing to magicians themselves.

A laymen should see every vanish as a "complete one". Even the sharper ones won't be impressed by a complete vanish since they don't know how you did the rest of your vanish actually.

I think coin endings should not be a production or a vanish.

Possible coin endings

1) Transformation
2) Transposition (To Impossible Location)

Usually my one coin rountine consists of:

-transformation as opening, then use the transform coin to continue the routine

- Transpostition

-Complete vanish/ vanish as ending, somehow it feels very grand

^_^ I would certainly be very keen to take a look at your routine! Have to show your thing at the gathering ya!

alexlim - March 14, 2010 11:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (LoyaLover @ Mar 13 2010, 08:42 PM)
Nods nods* I agree! But ah, even kainoa harbottle fail to catch it rather often (or at least in his demo) hahahaha. Its quite discouraging for most coin workers.

Having said that, yes it is definately one pretty move.

Kser: I think complete vanishes are very tempting too! As much as I like complete vanishes, I think a complete vanish as a coin ending is only appealing to magicians themselves.

A laymen should see every vanish as a "complete one". Even the sharper ones won't be impressed by a complete vanish since they don't know how you did the rest of your vanish actually.

I think coin endings should not be a production or a vanish.

Possible coin endings

1) Transformation
2) Transposition (To Impossible Location)

I think catching it at the fingertips without holding stuff (just for coin falling up effect) makes it quite a bit easier.

Do you mean that if we did vanishes before the ending with a vanish, even a real clean vanish won't be more impressive to laymen cause its essentially the same effect as less clean vanishes?

kser - March 14, 2010 01:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alexlim @ Mar 14 2010, 07:20 PM)
QUOTE (LoyaLover @ Mar 13 2010, 08:42 PM)
Nods nods* I agree! But ah, even kainoa harbottle fail to catch it rather often (or at least in his demo) hahahaha. Its quite discouraging for most coin workers.

Having said that, yes it is definately one pretty move.

Kser: I think complete vanishes are very tempting too! As much as I like complete vanishes, I think a complete vanish as a coin ending is only appealing to magicians themselves.

A laymen should see every vanish as a "complete one". Even the sharper ones won't be impressed by a complete vanish since they don't know how you did the rest of your vanish actually.

I think coin endings should not be a production or a vanish.

Possible coin endings

1) Transformation
2) Transposition (To Impossible Location)

I think catching it at the fingertips without holding stuff (just for coin falling up effect) makes it quite a bit easier.

Do you mean that if we did vanishes before the ending with a vanish, even a real clean vanish won't be more impressive to laymen cause its essentially the same effect as less clean vanishes?

i think he meant that, the audience should/suppose to see each vanish we do as "complete" vanish. So it seriously would not make any difference if you do a complete vanish as ending, and do a so-called partial vanish perfectly before, Unless you present both vanishes as two different item or two different effects.




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