Hi!

I've did tricks when the card magically transforms into another card but after i do that, some people request to search the pack for the cards. What should i do when this happens?

-bLu

I think you sort of answer your question with the topic title:
Disappear the whole pack. Then there won't be any "evidence", cause its devil proof, there is no way they can suspect anything cause the thing isnt there anymore...

I don't see anything wrong if they find the card which has been "transformed away" back in the deck. They have been magically switched positions back into the deck isn't it? If the 2 spade change to 2 club, definitely the 2 spade has to be somewhere back in the deck, unless the magic you would like to do is to vanish away the 2spade as well. Then probably a p*lm would do the trick?

Both of you have no idea what he meant.

So to help you, you need a way to end up with a "single" card in the deck at the end of the routine. An easy way is to palm it out before you do the transformation, or you use a dark card to make that card disappear which require more work actually.

Just palm the card, say you need a magic way or lighter, depends on the element that makes the card magically change, and you have ditched the card away.

If palming is not an issue, then I will suggest that you don't end the effect like so, but instead, you continue with another routine and say that you need a deck with the complete cards then you change a deck.

So end of whole routine, they require you to bring that deck out, then you bring out a deck that is short of that card. Simple. But the stupid thing is, you got 3 decks with you, quite silly.

If its me, i feel that its the control of the audience that you can work on to make sure they won't ask for it in the end but applause.

Wow... actually blue_mode's question sounded simple enough. But after seeing Larry's answer, I got a bit confused.

Hmm.. so back to blue_mode: Can you give us an example of the effect you are describing?

Eg:

You are using a moving pips/ WOW kind of thing or simply doing a colour change or using a dup?

Opps..

Thats true. What I refer to, is for routine that uses a dup. So maybe it is a ernase change only.HAHA!!

I agree that you could disappear the deck .
Another way is you could switch it back to a normal when being ask , try some misdirection or you could straight go on to the next performance giving them no chance to voice out .

Yeah. Even i got a bit lost there.

To Muscleaxl: I do DL to magically change the cards.

And i don't quite know how to disappear a deck and the problem with palming, s i have really no reason to put my hand in pocket. Once, my friends made sure all pockets were empty but i didn't know. So when i showed him the card he chose in my pocket. He said: "You put it there one. I don't know how but you put it there.

I edited your post for the name of the technique. Use abbreviations next time ok?

Anyway, I got what you mean.

Basically, you DL to show a card. Turn it back. Pull out THE card. Do some magic moves and reveal that THE card has changed right?

The truth is, that is not the best way to use a DL. People can trace the method back easily, even if they don't know the technical part. Probably that's why they would want to inspect your deck to see if the card is where they think it is.

Just don't do that kind of change. Go learn some effects that utilize the sleights you know.

A single sleight, be it a DL or color change, should never be used as a "stand-alone".

With regards to vanishing the deck. Well, I suppose you did or said something that planted the idea in their heads. Or your prestige with them is not high enough, that is why they could do a body search on you.

Take out something or putting in something (eg: a pen) is always a good reason for you to go where you want to go. Of course, you need to incorporate that reason into your effect.

Thanks for the advice. Sorry about revealing the sleight :mellow:

But i actually do this. Show the cards the ask them to pick a card. Once chosen, it will be controlled back on top to the deck. Then a DL, show the wrong card, then pluck out THE card, place it down and do a small trick away from the card the reveal card. I thought they will forget about the card but that didn't happen.

And plucking a pen out of pocket is really easy, but they request to check THE PEN TOO! That causes my effect to be long and draggy. :wacko:

And i don't really understand what you mean with regards to vanishing the deck. Sorry about that :unsure:

-bLu

You could end off by showing all your cards with you spreading it and then place the cards into the deck and vanish it by the help of silk or fire then after that show both your empty hand .
:)

Actually when you said magically change, i didn't expect it to be DL. I thought it was a gi....ed deck

In that case: Seal the card in somewhere, so that no one can touch, lets say a envelope or a box? Envelope can be check pretty fast, Seal the envelope, and the card is virtually untoachable

You could go on to other tricks, as in immediately. So people will not think that you are avoiding the question, but wanting to go on.

Eh.. let me get this clear.

Eg:
You spread the deck and let spec chooses a card, let's say A of Spade. You control it to top, DL over and show a wrong card-- let's say 10 of Diamond. You turn it back, take the top card out and turn it over on the table to show it has change to A Spade, the selected card. Right?

Ok, if I am correct, then there is no harm in letting them check the deck since you are left clean. If you want 100% sure, you can do a charlier cut to bury the 10 D before handing out to them. Don't see much of a problem here.

They want to check the pen? If you have a legitimate reason for taking the pen out (eg sign on the card), I don't ever think they would think of checking. In any case, you have nothing to hide too.

When I talk about prestige (got it from Ortiz's Strong Magic), it is like the level of respect they have for you as a magician.

Eg: If Lu Chen is doing an effect for them, they probably wouldn't dare to touch his stuff... because he is THE "famous Taiwanese magician who appeared on TV". Everything he does is "real" magic.

But to them, you might just be a boy who wants to fool them after learning some lame tricks bought over the 7-11 counter. So psychologically, they would want to heckle you so as not to be made a fool falling for you tricks.

Build up your prestige by:

1. Really practising your magic well and choose very powerful effects.
2. Don't offer magic to your friends. Let them ask you for it. Or simply don't perform for them.
3. Don't tolerate any disrespect. Tell them off (in a firm yet not rude way). Don't be apologetic

Once you become more "well-known", your prestige is sure to go up.

Hope it helps...

Whoa. One of the most strongest and best advice to magic i've heard. Thanks a lot. Problem is i get this urge to perform this new effect that i've learnt. How do i quit the habit?

If it is during school hour , you could focus fully on your studies rather than thinking of performing , it would help divert the attention .
You could also perform new trick you learnt through the mirror whereby you could see yourself doing the trick , this way it could also allow you to perfect the trick .
Remember to pratice till perfect before showing it so that no loops would be shown when performing

-XiaoFeng

Eh... actually it is all in Strong Magic. I stole Ortiz's words and make myself sound like an expert. :wub: Go get that book.

I mean theory is theory. It is easier said than done. I know it because when I just began magic, I too, had this urge to ram all the new tricks down my friends' throats when I see them. But over the years, I just learned to resist that.

Anyway, if you really have "performance withdrawal sympton", come for gatherings. Maybe you can get some "lobangs" for shows to satisfy your thirst.

my magic is not even good. My sleights so obvious...

Just practice and perform more.

Ok, I know it sounds contradictory to my earlier post, but it is really not. "Practice and perform"... in that order.

Once you practice well enough, plus your patter, go find a suitable situation where you can perform.

This is a very negative thinking! Stop thinking about that and spend the time to sharpen the skills up instead. Nobody starts as a professional.

Actually I find it VERY nice performing in front of other people who know the trick, they already know the trick, and you are not scared of screwing up.

I don't understand, why do you like performing in front of others who knows what you're going to do?

It up to everybody choices , on one hand, peforming in front of those whom know , you could get their opinin of the act and on the other hand , you feel relax as even you peform wrong or accidentely in some way reveal it , the awkand period will be leser than those " normal " audiences .

-XiaoFeng

You should strive to master the trick and not make any mistakes before you even perform it to anyone, including those who knows the trick.

I don't know why I can't edit my previous post. But I would like to add on that performing in front of those who know to get criticism is a good way of learning.