Have been playing around recently with the fli**er coin and trying to research on materials that can utilize this gaff. Examples like dvds from Eric Jones and Dan Watkins teaches nice coin across on the spectator hands using this coin gaff.

However, my main question of this thread is that, how many of the coin workers out there, do actually feel safe putting this gaff on the spectator hands.

Yes, i agree that to the spectator, they should not even know that gaff is used but personally, i just don seem to be able to break my own mentality barrier on being afraid that they may just fiddle with the gaff and the gaffs become exposed. An example is that, if the spectator sees 2 coins drop on their palm becoming 1 coin, wouldn't they just pick up that coin and try to see whats wrong with the coin?

In the dvd teaching materials i have seen, the gaff, together with other normal coins are even allowed to be checked by the spectator. How many of you guys, actually dare to do that as well??

I am bad in phrasing my question, but I certainly think that those who plays with this gaffs will go though this before and understand my situation.

If the coin tight enough, it can withstand examination. You'll have such problems if you perform for friends.

You might want to check out Troy Hooser's materials on this gaff.

If I'm not mistaken, the one that can be handled quite freely by a specs is a gr****y fli***r one. Still thinking to save up and get this one.

Don't know much of the different with a normal one.

Yes, sorry for forgetting to add that. I am actually talking about the gr****y fli***r. I am not too sure with the difference too, because i bought the gr****y ones, and have never had a chance to come across a non-gr****y one. Haha.

I just tried doing a coin across on my mum's hand, and she did not fiddle the coins yet she was really amazed. Seems like i may be really over worried. Got to try on more people to test the reaction though.

As for the tightness which was mentioned, I seriously got no idea how tight it should be. So probably, i shall just skip the examinations part to make my life easier.

There is a saying in our field, " there is no need to run when you are not being chased." This phrase is applicable to the different areas of peforming magic. I am not into coin and i don't understand most of the things you are talking about so this is the only advise i could offer.

Warmest Regards,
Bang Hao

Wow true. This is the first time i heard this saying, but i thought that it does actually make sense.

Another question. Other than re-ordering it from the original supplier(company) of the gimmick coin, is there any other place you can get the bands? Mine which is from keuppers only came with 4 which i do not think will last me a lifetime. Haha.

From the dentist. Or you can try using a 160 balloon.