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magic_most_wanted - June 11, 2010 02:47 PM (GMT)
I having trouble on how to present my tricks as in how to get involve the audience and not to repeat my script twice.Can anyone give me suggestion as soon as possible?Thanks.

MagicalLobo - June 11, 2010 03:09 PM (GMT)
You script every single trick on your repertoire. It's not just about mastering them and perform. It involves finding the right and good presentation to go with it. Take your time now to find the right presentation or theme for your tricks. There's no hurry. Know your audience as well. The coffeeshop uncle might be more interested in gambling theme while your friends (depending) might be more interested in your story.


magic_most_wanted - June 12, 2010 03:38 PM (GMT)
if my presentation is good, but my trick is normal will it help me much?

xpeinx - June 12, 2010 05:31 PM (GMT)
Yep.

Once I heard. Magic is only 10%, Practice and Presentation is 90%.

I did do some classic card change before, but present in a nice way.

Audience love it. =)

magic_most_wanted - June 13, 2010 03:17 AM (GMT)
That means if my trick is simple, so long as my presentation is good, it will help me in my performance?

Mabas - June 13, 2010 05:45 AM (GMT)
The trick can be simple but the it must be well practiced. The rest is presentation, presentation and more presentation.

You may even present the world's most amazing trick but if you don't have a good storyline, patter, personality, etc... it will just fall flat.

You may present a simple routine, eg. Crazy Man's Handcuff but with a good storyline and great personality, your audience would be extremely amazed.

Simple magic is all you need. The rest is personality, patter and good storyline. That's the hard part where you can't find in Magic DVDs. They don't teach you how to find your own personality.

Cheers!

magic_most_wanted - June 13, 2010 07:34 AM (GMT)
Personality how to train? Presentation need to have high and low tide?

nottieboy - June 13, 2010 11:14 AM (GMT)
Personality - Not very sure on training, I do know that by stepping out of your comfort zone, going out and perform, engage with the audience.

Magic is a form of art, entertainment. Enjoy perform the magic, I believe the people around will enjoy watching.

muscleaxl - June 14, 2010 07:11 AM (GMT)
To answer your question:

1. If the effect sucks (meaning it is a corny, easy-to-see-through, non-magical), then no amount of presentation is going to help. YOu will just wound up as a entertaining clown doing bad tricks.

That being said, how do you define "simple" trick? Is it simple in plot or technicalities or a simple-minded trick??

2. I don't really understand what some of you meant by "Magic is 10% and Presentation is 90%".

If you mean that the technical is NOT as important as presentation, then I believe it is incorrect. Magic is both an art and craft (read Designing Miracles by Darwin Ortiz).

Before you even think of presentation, have you already perfected your sleights? Do not think that a smart patter, charming personality would cover all those poorly done passes and DLs.

3. If you are already quite confident of your technical skills, pls read Magic And Showmanship or Strong Magic for some ideas to solve your problems.

magic_most_wanted - June 14, 2010 02:37 PM (GMT)
That means every trick needs to be master before performing cause if magician fail is not a magician but is a clown. Plus magic should be entertaining which brings lots of surprises to audience. Even if it's a simple trick we have to practice it to ensure that it is prefect before showing to others.

XiaoFeng - June 15, 2010 06:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (magic_most_wanted @ Jun 14 2010, 10:37 PM)
That means every trick needs to be master before performing cause if magician fail is not a magician but is a clown. Plus magic should be entertaining which brings lots of surprises to audience. Even if it's a simple trick we have to practice it to ensure that it is prefect before showing to others.

Yup you are right , pratice is the most important key for a good peformance but there are still other aspect as in you will not expect at all may happen , thus you should alway have a backup plan .
Magic to me is a form of entertainment and art .
P.S . When magician fail , I counted them as failureof an magic ( some may even expose things that could not be make to known to audience ) instead of a clown ( quite serious word :D to me )

muscleaxl - June 15, 2010 01:18 PM (GMT)
"That means every trick needs to be master before performing cause if magician fail is not a magician but is a clown. Plus magic should be entertaining which brings lots of surprises to audience. Even if it's a simple trick we have to practice it to ensure that it is perfect before showing to others.""




I have a feeling you all didn't get what I mean at all.... because I also couldn't understand what you are trying to say by your above reply.

And since when have I ever say that "practice is NOT important" or "NO need to practice? Pls re-read my reply.

Break - June 15, 2010 05:00 PM (GMT)
One tip I got from Garcia on presenting is to add your own personality into the presentation. If you are more of a funny, humorous guy you may want to add humour into your presentation. If you have a more mysterious persona, you might want to make your magic a little more spooky; The most important thing is to let your personality take the lead in your presentation of magic. Hope this helps!

"I have been myself for past 28 years" - Daniel Garcia (on presentation) :D

LoyaLover - June 16, 2010 01:18 AM (GMT)
I was quite happy when this thread was up.

I personally felt that too many magicians around don't put as much focus on their presentation compared to technical proficiency. I am actually stuck in the same category. Paying too much attention to my techniques and not focusing on the patter lines.

I've heard from a friend who even told me that magic is 99% presentation. IMO he was one of the better magician's I've met by far. The logic is simple. It isn't to exaggerate the ratio of time you should devote to technicality or presentation skills, but just to show how little people pay attention to whats so important.

Learning a classic vanish may take a month. But putting in presentation, patter, pausation, misdirection and so on, is something that probably takes forever to be natural be, or trained to be.

I am quite ashamed to say that I don't find enough time to work on the patter for most of my routines. (Partly because honestly it takes much longer to develop a patter than to train for a technique)

But for the ones I do, there's a huge difference. I am happier performing it with a good presentation, and its more appealing to the crowds as well. I suppose that's what differentiates serious hobbyists like some of us compared to professionals who gets paid to entertain. Since entertainment is the benchmark for them, naturally they have to craft their presentation such that it reach out to their crowds better.

I also think that a good patter helps alot with routing. It would guide your audience along and build up your routine till the climax.

This is just my 2 cents worth of course.

LoyaLover - June 16, 2010 02:17 PM (GMT)
Chanced upon a 2005 thread by Sherman. I think it makes a lot of sense to post this right here for those who would sincerely want to be more appealing to their audiences.

http://forums.singaporemagiccircle.com/ind...wtopic=2683&hl=

xpeinx - June 16, 2010 02:23 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the link.

Know lots of more stuff of Presentation.

Have to improve...

magic_most_wanted - June 20, 2010 07:13 AM (GMT)
What important is the showmanship?The only way to help is to practice and perform?

mudbuddha - June 21, 2010 02:36 AM (GMT)
If you are only out to impress magicians (perhaps only new magicians or beginners in magic) with your godly sleights or crazy flourishes then of course showmanship and presentation in this context is not important.

But if you are doing a show, of course your presentation and showmanship that makes or break your show. Would you pay to watch a magician doing godly flourishes or XCMs half an hour non stop but has a dead pan face, talk in a single monotonous voice and can't dress to save his life?

Practice and perform is the way to improve your performances as you gain invaluable experiences in what works for you and what doesn't and of course most important audience management.

magic_most_wanted - June 24, 2010 02:59 AM (GMT)
How to get the audience attention to the show?

mudbuddha - June 26, 2010 12:26 AM (GMT)
Well....i guess you can stand naked in the middle of Orchard Road distributing flyers promoting yourself as the only magician in Singapore who performs his magic naked or splash a million dollars on commercials. :)

magic_most_wanted - June 26, 2010 03:21 AM (GMT)
As in when performing.How to get their attention?

birder123 - June 27, 2010 03:06 AM (GMT)
Well, never really performed, but this is what i gathered hearing judges at da mo jing

Your voice, when doing close up tricks, or mentalism tricks must be focused, and intensed.

Your eyes must be concentrated, and not like looking around, unfocused. How should I put it: 眼神不能飘忽!Of course you can change where you look at. Also, it should be intense, or showing your mood.

If your routine consists of a good effect that requires much time to set up before the effect is seen, you might want to add small tricks in between so that you don't lose the person's attention while doing the not magical parts.

Of course, it should have a climax with the person going like :!!:




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