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[LV] - March 2, 2005 02:16 AM (GMT)
I having some problem doing the hot shot... i watch the VCD "Born to Perform" by OZ.

The card I wan to shoot in the ready position is pulls out together with the rest of the deck... which makes the rest of deck very shaky..

I wan to pull out 1 card, the rest simply cannot stay in the deck, they will get "fan" out....

any help :g:

M@gical86 - March 2, 2005 02:36 AM (GMT)
I m oso facing e same prob wif my hot shot...Guess some tips here wil b useful

Magicdow - March 2, 2005 03:18 AM (GMT)
VCD? hehehe..... Do you know that it was never in VCD format?

[LV] - March 2, 2005 03:29 AM (GMT)
bro Magicdow,

ya.. it's never in VCD format... it's DVD, but i rip it off because I only got VCD player at home... :(

So any tips for the card in ready position not to fan more than 1 card ?

TheMaestro - March 2, 2005 03:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE ([LV] @ Mar 2 2005, 11:29 AM)
ya.. it's never in VCD format... it's DVD, but i rip it off because I only got VCD player at home... :(

So any tips for the card in ready position not to fan more than 1 card ?

I hope you at least bought the DVD before ripping it off. Even then, you shouldn't be ripping it off still violates copyright. Not having a DVD player does not justify ripping it off, you should have considered that you would not have a player before purhasing the DVD if you did.

[LV] - March 2, 2005 03:45 AM (GMT)
sorry bros... i got no money got DVD player...

am I been outcast because i cannot afford a DVD player ?

:off: :off: :off:



Now can i get some help le mah ?

Daryl - March 2, 2005 03:58 AM (GMT)
Hi buddy..

dont worry..im not here to shoot you down ;)

for the hotshot cut, make sure that your middle finger and thumb hold the rest of the packet more or less sqaured up to prevent it from spreading out. You can also tilt your hand backward so that gravity will prevent the cards from fanning. it would also help if you have a newer deck.

Hope it works!



Daryl
(Not the inventor of this kickass production :P )

Ning - March 2, 2005 04:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE ([LV] @ Mar 2 2005, 11:45 AM)
sorry bros... i got no money got DVD player...

am I been outcast because i cannot afford a DVD player ?

:off: :off: :off:



Now can i get some help le mah ?

Heya. You're not an outcast lah... it's just generally recommended that one purchases original stuff so proper credit goes to the maker ;)

Just so.

TheMaestro - March 2, 2005 04:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ning @ Mar 2 2005, 12:13 PM)
QUOTE ([LV)
,Mar 2 2005, 11:45 AM] sorry bros... i got no money got DVD player...

am I been outcast because i cannot afford a DVD player ?

:off:  :off:  :off:



Now can i get some help le mah ?

Heya. You're not an outcast lah... it's just generally recommended that one purchases original stuff so proper credit goes to the maker ;)

Just so.

Yes, we'll help you in whatever way we can, but please don't justify ripping off by saying you have no DVD player

tygnehc123 - March 2, 2005 06:29 AM (GMT)
Y cant he rip the dvd for his own use..? i mean if he owns the dvd, he can do so ma.. some even duplicate for backup.. i believe the copyrite laws only mention that one cannot duplicate the dvd for others or resell it.. no offence. ^_^

TheMaestro - March 2, 2005 09:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (tygnehc123 @ Mar 2 2005, 02:29 PM)
Y cant he rip the dvd for his own use..? i mean if he owns the dvd, he can do so ma.. some even duplicate for backup.. i believe the copyrite laws only mention that one cannot duplicate the dvd for others or resell it.. no offence. ^_^

Legally, he can't. When copyright says no copies, it means no copies. In fact, in the copyright act, they had to specifically say that the action of caching information in your web browser for display on your screen does not infringe copyright if not we would all be breaking the law when surf the net.

Morally speaking though I can understand it would be quite reasonable to try to convert his DVD into VCD format for viewing but I pretty much leave this up to the individual to decide if they should do this or not. That's why in my earlier post I said I hope he at least bought the DVD.

Raoul - March 2, 2005 10:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TheMaestro @ Mar 2 2005, 05:22 PM)
Legally, he can't. When copyright says no copies, it means no copies. In fact, in the copyright act, they had to specifically say that the action of caching information in your web browser for display on your screen does not infringe copyright if not we would all be breaking the law when surf the net.

Not exactly. As long as you have bought the original copy, making a duplicate FOR YOURSELF is quite legal. That is quite clear in the Copyright Act.

That being said, this is a non-issue, since Daryl Martinez's Hot Shot Cut is being taught on a product by Oz Pearlman.

Does no one else get the irony? :D

TheMaestro - March 2, 2005 04:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Raoul @ Mar 2 2005, 06:19 PM)
Not exactly. As long as you have bought the original copy, making a duplicate FOR YOURSELF is quite legal. That is quite clear in the Copyright Act.

That being said, this is a non-issue, since Daryl Martinez's Hot Shot Cut is being taught on a product by Oz Pearlman.

Does no one else get the irony?  :D

Ok, as a matter of purely academic interest, could you let me know which chapter in the act does it state that making a copy for yourself in this case is legal? I've checked out all the provisions for "acts that do not constitute infringement" and the closest thing I've found is that making a backup copy of computer programs is not infringement.

I'm taking two courses on IT regulation now so it would really help if you could help me locate that info. If need be, you could refer to
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi...est&method=part

Thanks!

neo23 - March 2, 2005 04:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Raoul @ Mar 2 2005, 06:19 PM)
Not exactly. As long as you have bought the original copy, making a duplicate FOR YOURSELF is quite legal. That is quite clear in the Copyright Act.

yep owner of the bought item CAN make copies for backup purposes only.. not for resale not anythin...

TheMaestro - March 2, 2005 04:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (neo23 @ Mar 3 2005, 12:50 AM)
QUOTE (Raoul @ Mar 2 2005, 06:19 PM)
Not exactly. As long as you have bought the original copy, making a duplicate FOR YOURSELF is quite legal. That is quite clear in the Copyright Act.

yep owner of the bought item CAN make copies for backup purposes only.. not for resale not anythin...

Ok, but please let me know where it states that in the act so I can refer to it? :mellow: Or let me know how you know this?

Winder - March 2, 2005 04:54 PM (GMT)
Guys can we actually stay on topic ? Thank you

illusionist - March 2, 2005 05:39 PM (GMT)
Wow.. heat build up.. cool lol... Anyway no matter wat get a DVD rom to fix in your com lol is quite cheap now I guess.. No worries any problem we will try our best to help.. Ok try to keep back on topic on jot shot ok .. laws and stuff I don't know so can't say anything.. but no matter wat is up to indivisual lah right... :D

[LV] - March 3, 2005 03:17 AM (GMT)
guys, i guess i just found out how to do Hot Shot without "fanning" the deck..

when u drawing your selected card from the deck, dont hold the deck too tight, just hold it and tilt any side, NOT FRONT as the sectioned card is coming from front, then get your selected card in ready position to shoot it out.


i try holding tight, the deck simply fan out, i try soft, the deck still keep in place... need more practice to make sure the deck doesnt shake off when u hold it lightly.



Hope the above mention method works for people having problem with hot shot without "fanning" the deck.

GordonLi - March 3, 2005 07:13 AM (GMT)
i believe the problem arises at the point where the deck is being cut.

my tip is in order to keep the deck squared, dont grip the deck to low, but relatively tight, and try to achieve a neat cut with the joint of the thumb.

[LV] - March 3, 2005 08:06 AM (GMT)
actually my problem arise after the deck been cut and when trying to shoot out the selected out..

now i can do the 2nd last part getting the card to the ready position and shoots out nicely...

my problem is solve .. here's my method.. hope can help someone having the same problem like me..

1) dont be lazy to pull your thumb to cut the deck... go to the right position.. i realise when i start learning, i tend to pull my thumb 90% to the correct spot, by doing this, i will fan both the upper and lower deck as the thumb trying to get it's way in..

2) after putting the deck in the "slack" up position, try not to hold the upper cutted deck too hard, just hold it and slowly get the card to be shot out in the ready position..

3) try and try and try, till now, i still trying... at least now it's 10 times, i can do 8 times nicely...

GO GO GO ~ we can do it !!

Anybody dunno wad i talking above, can quote and ask me, but i will not tell u very details in case I leak... :g:

zhuanan - May 18, 2005 12:15 PM (GMT)
I heard that the Hot Chot Cut is a rip-off from Paul Harris AoA Books...If you intend to buy a DVD for this effect, may be you would like to check out the upcoming

Extreme Beginnerz DVD...

Just a suggestion

CLJ - May 18, 2005 12:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (zhuanan @ May 18 2005, 08:15 PM)
I heard that the Hot Chot Cut is a rip-off from Paul Harris AoA Books...If you intend to buy a DVD for this effect, may be you would like to check out the upcoming

Extreme Beginnerz DVD...

Just a suggestion

Huh? What're you talking about?

The hotshot Cut is Daryl's (Martinez), not Paul Harris'. Paul Harris has a variation of the cut in the third volume of his Art of Astonishment series. If you wanna learn it, you should check out the 8th tape in Daryl's Encyclopedia of Card Flourishes series, or, like you said, wait until the Xtreme Beginners DVD comes out or something.

C.

Blackwing - May 18, 2005 12:39 PM (GMT)
Haha I watched BTP as well and I didn't manage to learn the proper hot shot. Right now, I'm shooting out cards from a charlier cut. It looks really unique cos no one else can do it so I guess I'm sticking to the charlier hot shot cut ^_^

adrielho11 - May 18, 2005 01:25 PM (GMT)
i think you should have some space between both stacks and the card you want to shoot out..dun't know if already knew this..last time i did hot shot card without that space in between both top and bottom stack..so the card couldn't come out..now i noe..i'll try to perfect it..

[Ling] - May 18, 2005 02:07 PM (GMT)
Learn the knuckle cut for Hot Shots. B)

Hearts2Hearts - June 5, 2005 04:36 AM (GMT)
Wow Wow Wow...

Hi guys...

Hope i am not offending anyone here.... but when i go thru the messages... i smell more gun Powder than any other things... :P

heres my advise.... Try using a newer deck of cards and try not to hold too tight tilting the deck slightly and press the card to be shot out upwards.... and it will automatically shot out without fanning the decks...

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU




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