in my ACR, i the card was inserted into the deck then i tell the spec tht will it be amazing or do they believe tht...., then later let then take the card to make them amazed (i thnk tht it's realli a good thing to let ur spec participate in to magic, 2CM is a good example... they will be more amazed as the magic happened in their own handz)

I think when you ask your audience to take that card and to placed it into the centre, you must really have the guts and audience management. Some spectators will just turn over the card upon reaching it, i think some of us in here might have experience it before. When spectators decide that they are better than you and want to take over from there. :) Hahaha

For me, i simply ask them to CUT the deck, i placed the card in the middle and ask them to close the packet.

Instil a certain extent of power and 'good' fear in the audience is rather good to manage them efficiently. Give them a cold blaine-like stare once a while. B)

- Ling,

usually when i ask dem to push the card into the deck, iam prepared for the 'mouth' trick .. therefore even if they turn over the card.. well you noe.. :D

well for this part of the routine to work, there are many ways to pressure the spectator to not look at the card and follow your instructions, as it seems.

for me, i like "alright just take the card, *hand them the card* and quickly push it into the deck as i dribble it." and they have (out of the umm.. not too many times i've done it) no problem with not looking at the card they are putting into the deck. i think there are better ways to make them believe that the card they are holding on to is the ambitious card though.

wow. this thread really is old.

acr rawk~~but i dun like the mouth trick...i think it will expose the secret~~just kept making the card to top several time and u will get a wow~~

what a pity, u are missing out on something great...

its a pity if u dont do card to mouth. it adds variety to your ACR effect, and its very surprising for the audience! its a perfect example of making use of attention control for a kicker, and trust me, the audience will credit ur success to professionalism and perfect structuring of routine which incorporates theory and psychology.

well.. just remember to have a headstart at all times..
if u got some vids on acr u should know la...

i mix daryl and oz and brads together.

but i always forget some parts.. LOL.........

i think that card to mouth CANNOT BE ENDING!
some losers go end that way..

the pop up move is the STRONGEST ! even blaine or wadever magician would do pop up move. its so strong and simple.. when i was layman. i saw blaine do it. i was like. hey wat the! i jumped.

anyway.. u must be good and natural and smooth at the sleights. like DL.. add ons... the pass.. bla bla.. bla bla

Hey poping no one is a loser if end with card to mouth mind your words ok.. All people have different perfroming style and wat they like to do for a ending for ACR is not up to you to say and not up to you to say someone end with this is loser and some one end with that is the best.. Come on ACR is a very flexiable effect... You can get reaction too with card to mouth .. Ah I know you fail so you don't like it right lol :P It s all up to people way and no one is a loser in wat ending they choose... :D

PoPing, no offence but that sounded really really narrow minded.
Everyone has their own style, and for one, I think the the bent-card-rise cannot be compared to the entertainment value of the card to mouth. And how can you define people who do the card to mouth as losers!? Its like saying...

"If you drink hi-lo milk instead of Magnolia, you are a loser!"
"If you are a left handed person and not right, you are a loser!"
"If you use red silks instead of blue ones, you are a LOSER!"

Whats up with that. <_<

i dun really like pop up...it spoil my cards
i prefer doin face up as ending

i've been using "mouth" since ur suggestion~~the effect is great~~thanks (practicing my one handed fan...)

You got to be kidding right?

Card to mouth for ACR is something that has max impact with proper subtle misdirection and presentation. Not to argue on which ending's the best, but I don't think that ending it that way will qualify the performer as a loser.

Do excercise some restraint before you decide that a well-known and widely used technique is only used by "losers."

Acr was the best routines i had know till now which mixes many variety...Up till now,whenever my friends heard me talking bout magic,they will ask me to perform acr again but i always find excuses or perform other tricks for them...Well,should know why...

Yeah, Mr. Poping. Different people will have different styles and tastes. So let's not discriminate anyone in any manner. Both 'bent card' and 'card-to-mouth' is great in their ways, it's up to the performer. Be more mature and sensitive in your views, and be more open-minded to different opinions of different people. ;)

Cool with that?

- Ling.

Wow nice saying there ling,and lets hope poping already learn his mistake...And peace,all members in smc is kind,not evil...

i_neveregret, im glad u liked it and got great reactions.

poping, i would like to say that card to mouth can make a very good ending! after a few phases, everyone will be watching the top card as u have conditioned them to think that way. so when they realise its totally different from what they expect, its comical and surprising, and its just a wondertful way to end off. ending a routine at the climax, the height of the trick, b4 it gets boring and no longer "magical".

many magicians have used this in their own routines with absolute success, greg wilson and tommy wonder for example in their coin routine makes the coin appear on their eye (like a monocle), while every1 is looking down at their hands. greg wilson also has phases where the coin appear on the spec's shoulders and under his watch. so, such effects which are taken out of the box makes PERFECT ending. IMO, its even better than after doing this, go back to say a pop-up move (which is great too, but it still happens on the deck).

lol.. i was in a bad mood. i may sonud very angry.
ok anyway i just love pop up move so much coz my uncle got so shocked. lol.. i think card to mouth is quite strong. but not good for ending

its ok, but i felt every1's reaction to u was too strong.

erm, actually, i end off my current ACR (which i admit is not satisfactory yet) with the popup. but im just trying to invoke thinking into the real possiblity of ending off on a light-hearted and interesting phase.

the 2 different endings will leave your audience with 2 different feelings.. (a little hard to describe, but u get what i mean)

Ok,i end my acr with an other trick rather than card to mouth or pop up...That trick is in born to perform too...So if anyone can figure out what trick i end my acr with,it may b another good addition to acr routine...

I mentioned it in another thread. My fav ending is with a blank deck and one normal card.

I'll do a classic force on the normal card after hindu shuffling the deck (well, to be honest, I'm still practising the classic force). If the force fails, I'll find an excuse to go for a slip cut force.

Then, I'll speed thru several phases of ACR. It won't be long before someone "catches on" and accuse me of using a one way force deck, upon which I'll admit using duplicates and end the trick by showing the entire deck blank.

Works like a charm and never fails to shock. A couple of touches like the flustration count (I'm trying to incorporate Tommy Wonder's method of doing it...something valuable learned at IF) really seals the fact that the spectator war "right." Watch the jaws hit the ground after the final reveal.

I will be posting a couple of vids up here soon on my variation(s) of the ACR. Hope you guys will like them.

For those at IF, remember tommy wonder's ACR to impossible location? It's nothing revolutionary and i've seen cynwell does a similiar version way before.
But what strikes me as interesting is rather than using a "classic pass" or "shuttle pass" kinda move with the box, he uses it as a "hand" to show the card really dropping out of the box. Those at the lecture should remember it B)

That was interesting to me because it demostrates that it is really not about using a combination of sleights (like building blocks) to achieve an effect (which is very jay sankey style of things), but banking in on the uniqueness of each effect and strengthen it with suitable "non-sleight" moves.

Hope that makes sense to someone B)

Hey Ling, it's not MR Poping... she's a gal. Like you. dig? :D

And poping... thanks for calling me a loser... really helps me get that tractor I want for christmas.

Anyhow, I'm going terribly off topic. *Shoots a llama with a rubber band* Okay, all fixed.

I've said this before in the other ACR thread, that David Regal's little plot and handling of the ACR is teh 1337. I love it when you take an old effect and change the presentation entirely, so that it doesn't even resemble the old one anymore... hehe ;)

-Kev

Oops.

Anyway, Moondust's idea is really good! Gotta get a blank deck and start fooling everyone. :D

- Ling.

Its original? I doubt so...

Nah...it's not exactly original. I first saw some dude do it in MVD, and then I watched Daryl's Ultimate Ambition video and there was a couple of suggestions with a couple of methods on using a one way force deck to do an ACR.

Just thought that it looked shocking if you used a blank deck instead. Also, What I discovered was that there were plenty of sleights you can use with an ACR on a one-way deck, just as long as you don't show any of the faces of the blank cards during the routine.

I have brought this one step further by trying to do an ACR and retain an entire stack to follow up with another routine. It's not that difficult as long as you use sleights like a single swivel cut, then p***ing the deck to nullify the cut, together with a few b**** insertions.

Speaking of an ACR with a blank deck, are any of you guys familiar with Greg Wilson's "Point Blank" from his Pyrotechnic Pasteboards DVD? It sure is a way-out take on the old plot, right up there with (or maybe above) David Regal's handling and presentation. Wow.

-Kev

I'd say WITH David's... its clever, but not patter-yo-asses-off-and-stuff-vanishing-canes-up-it clever...

Well. david..ya like wat buaya says.hes brilliant but not 'surprising enuf'

Actually, Justin was referring to Greg Wilson's Point Blank routine, not David Regal's. Both make me scream a lot whenever I see them.

C.