how to gauge a skill level of a magician?
what shud a magcian know at noob,rookie,advance,or master level?

There is no way to guage a magician... all is on the exposure you have and the experience.... :D

why bother gauging your level?

at the specific moment and place when I perform, I am better than david copperfield, or lennart green or michael ammar or david roth. Because I'm the one doing the magic. Not them.

If you stop to think about how good you've become, or how bad you've deteriorated, you've reach your limit. Don't ask if you're good enough. KNOW that you can do more. You can always learn, create and innovate.

Very well said.

Whilst there are references in whether are you a newbie, advance, intermediate etc, these are meant as a form of expression and not a level of interpretation. Also, there are so many overlapping ambiguities pertaining to magic. Take David Copperfield. He may be an expert illusionist but I don't think he fares well in card manipulations.

Always strive to enhance audience reactions. And use that as a motivation to do even better. Just enjoy what you're doing and as long as you have the interest, it doesn't really matter which level you belong to.

I always believe in creating your own tricks from what you have learnt. You're never any less of a magician than anyone. You created your own tricks.

Ya, as mentioned by members from this forum, it is very very hard to gauge where you are. Take example, if you are a pro, and someone did a magic on you and you dont know it, are you a pro then, and is he a pro? But in another way, you are still performing and making a living out of it.

So general, the skill levels are only used when you yourself want to gauge yourself. Which have 2 effects, either boast your confidence real high or real low. Alot of us tell alot of people not to look down on their own talent in magic, which meant that each one of us have a magic in us. All of us are different.

In the end, strive to break through what you have learnt, no many how much tricks you know. break through, improve the trick, improve your approach, and things like tat. Dont just strive to reach pro, strive to win yourself.

My 2cents thought

I believe it IS possible to gague a magician.

Entertaining VS Not entertaining.
Humble VS Arrogant.

To me all these DO contribute to gagueing a magician, not their skill, but their personality and charisma. I am the non entertaining one...

Im a professional, i been in magic for 8 mths only, and im pro.

Nah, im just joking.

How do u judge a magician?

Lennart green will SURE make misakes sometimes. Even the bucks drop cards. So, theres always something more to learn.

techinically, pro just means that over 50% of your income comes from magic. it has nothing to do with skill level.

and yes, i think it is possible to guage a magician.

a good magician must have the following criterias:

1. skill (dun have to be a jack of all trades, but as long as he does what he does well)
-technical skill (eg. sleights)
-audience management skills
-responding to screw ups
-misdirection, attention control, etc.
2. entertainment (duh)
-routining
~flow
~psychology
-patter
-visual comedy
3. character
-humility (buaya's point)
-extroverted (i guess it helps...)
-etc

based on this template, as long as a magician succeeds in *most* of them, he is probably a good one.

oh yes, making mistakes doesnt mean one sucks, every1 makes mistakes. it just depends on how many and how often! :)