HA HA HA! This guy must be kidding!
LIGHTNING DECK

LoL. Click on the 'LIGHTNING DECK' to see what I mean. Ha ha. He's cheating us all! The effect has no motivation! UGH. The things people do:p

er ? ?
why no motivation , i dun get it =p

Buaya, i also don't quite get you.. What do you mean by 'no motivation'? I think the effect is simple and nice (maybe a little gimmicked sounding, though). Well, maybe the way the guy explained the effect on the website seemed a little too excited and desperate.

Is that what you mean by 'no motivation'?

Hmmm... Motivation... Means... Theres no reason for an effect... I mean. You may say theres no REASON for ambitious card... but this effect is just WRONG... I mean. Its an effect that totally screams 'GIMMICKED!!!!'

I dunno. Maybe I'm just weird...

[canadianaccent]Jesus Christ[/canadianaccent], I think I got a migraine and a couple of muscular spasms trying to read that entire chunk of text. After finally understanding what the entire effect was about, I think I got diarrhoea. Yeah, it was THAT bad =/

Hey, at least the cards are of good quality! Flynndog magic should be proud.

C.

Maybe the trick behind tis deck is R**** and Sm**** card??anyway, u can improvise it..u can get a plain ordinary deck, perform some magic with it and later do a sudden switch and take the lightning deck..just a suggestions! :D

!!!

I second Buaya...

I dunno how to say it but this trick is just... is just...

Haiya... just say that this trick has the wording '~Look here! This Deck Is Gimmicked!!~' on it....

~Ruffy

It won't look gimmick. Its a bicycle box.

Anyway,

Erm buaya, i think the trick has nothing wrong with it.. For example invisible deck, will sound strange the first time, i don't know whether this is good or bad cause i have not bought it but should'nt put things down when you have'nt seen it.

No offence, alls cool. B)

i agree that this effect is meaningless. i would reserve the term "motivation" for sleights/actions within the effect.

the very effect already leads the audience down the inevitable path that it is a gimmicked deck. and this entire effect is but a demonstration of skill, and breeds a challenge/puzzle atmosphere.

the quality or brand of the cards make not much diff to the audience, the effect is obviously a gimmicked one and not inspectable. and i think a switch of the deck is not appropriate for this effect because of the technicalities.

"what abt an invisible/svengali deck", some may ask. well, i think an invisible deck is perfectly fine. is there a contradiction in my beliefs? no! the invisible deck is and should be presented as a tool to reveal a prediction, this lighting deck IS the site of trickery in the spectator's eyes no matter how u present it. the invisible deck is a great place to start a routine with, after which, i think its justified to do a switch without suspicions from the audience as to them, the deck was and is still a perfectly normal deck.

what abt the svengali deck, when all the cards are shown to be all the same? does it mean that this "gimmicky" effect sux? yes! even if u do a switch later on, ur audience may suspect it, cos there is no way all the cards from a normal deck can be shown to be all the same at the same time.

that effect sux, yes, but there is still nothing wrong with the svengali deck. the svengali deck again should be presented as a normal deck, shuffled face up to subtly hint that its normal, give it a few cuts and have someone pick a card. this way, the gimmicked deck becomes a tool to "randomly" choose a card. imo, in no circumstances shud the deck be shown to be all the same cards, as it does seem extremely gimmicky.

can this same thing be applied to the lightning deck, where another effect instead of the suggested one be done to improve it? i suppose so, but currently, im too lazy to think up one for this deck.

conclusion: visible gimmicks should be presented as tools so as not to arouse suspicion. gimmicks working unseen are a totally different story. there is nothing exactly wrong with the concept of "lightning deck", although i feel it was constructed around a poor effect, but now given the deck, one may be able to think up a better effect.

"Because there is no way all the cards from a normal deck can be shown to be all the same at the same time."

Why not? Aren't we doing magic? It's supposed to be impossible right?

sorry, i was typing so much i didnt really word everything correctly. nothing is impossible, especially in magic, which is about making the impossible possible.

it is not an absolute, rather, i shud say

"there is hardly a practical way in which all the cards of a normal deck can be shown to be the same card by spreading them on a table."

some ideas may be feasible (do-able) but probably not practical, since we are talking abt a normal deck.

anyway, u guys get the idea.

what im trying to say is that the suggested effect makes the cards look gimmicked. that is not wrong per say, but with all my previous points, i think that the effect is not good.

haha, the web is all words but no picture. shouldn't they post at least a picture so people actually know where their money is going to. -_-

i think its abit weird if u'd ask me.. the way they describes it makes me feel that they are desperate. and from the look of the pictures of the deck, its gives me a feeling the cards we be in condition of really rugged paper we used to play with went we were really young, those 1.20 per pack card game..

Bubble head, Russell Peters?



On track: I'm pretty sure we've all heard of similar effects, pick one card out of 52 face down cards, and that card's the only card with face while the rest is blank. Also ID, brainwave, they do the pretty much the same thing. I suspect this Lightning Deck *oooh! aaah!* is similar to what I describe.


Though, before I make any conclusion, I should see it performed first.