should i get a proper's card guard? i saw it for $50.

or should i continue to use the stainless steel one? the price difference is really huge though.

will the porper's card guard be scratched easily or damaged etc?

basically because i throw my stainless steel card guard everywhere in the house, and because it protects my cards, my steel card guard has plenty of scratches etc but i dont really card.

will that happen to the porper's one?

The porper card guard looks great and keeps your card in great condition.

However, IMO, it gets scratched [B]Very Easily[\B]!! A drop on the floor will cause it to have scratches and in worse cases, some of its black edges to be chipped, showing the inner white.

So judging from the way you handle your card guards, i think its best not to get a porper :lol:

however i realised that using the stainless steel guard may sometimes scratch my cards or the box when i slide it in. For the proper, it doesnt.

Moreover, i think anyone who spends $50 on items will usually take good care of it and not throw it around. :!!:

woah, thanks for the review. i guess i'll stick with the stainless steel ones, 1 porper is probably equal to 4 steel ones, if i get from cyngapore, lol.

thanks andy. knowing that the porper's get scratched VERY EASILY is enough. :P

I think the porpers are what "seperate the bois from the men". I've had my Porper clip for almost two years now, and it has virtually NO scratches at all. That's because I take good care of it, like it should be.

With great powers come great responsibility. And lots of p***y, too. :D

-Kev

how do u take care of it when its suppose to take care of ur cards? wrap it around layers and layers of sponge?

i think it may be possible to spray some acrylic coating on the card clip to help and protect the finish (keep it looking good).

i think perhaps most spray-ons should work well. just a light layer should help prevent chipping..

Hey u get the card guard to protect the cards, not protect itself, morever it wont react with acids to form hydrogen if its made from unreactive metals.

I dont have one yet, i wont consider geting one, im on a budget.

I always put mine in my 'cargo pocket" in my pants. Those of you who see me use it that way will know what I mean. This way, the only thing the clip is touching is cloth, and there's minimal sweat touching the utility. A card clip mainly just protects cards, but a Porper really shows a touch of class to those you perform for. Or maybe they'll just consider you a card geek :D

-Kev

i agree with kev, its also style.

imagine u take out a badly scratched card clip. it reflects so badly... so what if its a porper, it would matter to the audience. in fact, scratches on porper will be even more obvious!

perhaps i'll jus get a porper card clip, and wrap it all up and put in my bag, while i use the steel card guard to protect my cards. when i'm about to perform, i'll then switch the card clips and show it off to the audience. lol. <_<

How about a card clip clip? You know, a utility that protects the very thing that protects your cards. It's like using spermicide on a cond-, um, contraceptive. Just to make sure it's EXTRA SAFE.

Pun intended. :P

-Kev

hmm, let me guess, that'll cost like $75 - $100?

then i'd jus go around with a deck of card without a clip, $100 can get me 25 decks, enough to last me over 2 years.

personally, i agree with djtk. not much point getting a porper unless it will slow down ur deck usage by 25 in any given time, b4 its damaged.

but i guess i'll get one when i have the $, cos of the feel good factor. :)

but if the porper lasts long (and in kev's hands it does), it might make a worthy long-term investment...

It doesn't last long in Kev's hands. It lasts longer in Kev's cargo pocket :D

All in all, it's not really a must-have for everybody... but like it's often said: if you've got it, fluant it! ;)

-Kev

which reminds me.

did Huron ever get back the Porper he misplaced during the.. 19th Febuary outing? met him while he was looking for it.

my "stainless" steel card clips aren't too bad at all. and even though they cost a fraction of a Porper, I treat them pretty well. it's all about how you respect what you own, even a deck of cards, for them to last or perform to their maximum potential.

a lot to say for something that just protects a deck.

i hear so many good things abt the joe porper's card guard.

i only have a stainless steal one and i find it v good. i dont need a joe porper. why? well.. my main purpose for a card guard is well... to protect the box and cards.

im a person that is v likely to carry my deck of cards almost everywhere and thus have some bad experience without a card clip/guard.

This is what happen if u have no card clip:
1) u carry ya deck in ya pocket (i normally carry in my front pants pocket) ok... not much prob but other things in ya pocket might poke ya deck and its might damage it.
2) U see someone and u have no table... so u take out ya cards from the deck and carefully put it back into ya pocket thinking that it should be ok there..
3) u perform the card magic. u get reaction... u forget all abt ya card box in ya pocket.... booom!! its squashed... :P
4) then u finish the trick and wanna put back into the card box and then u go "sh*T" after that... i just feel like... sigh...nvmla ... it will wear down anyway.. giving excuses here and there.

This wat happens when u have a card clip/guard:
1) yes... it might be heavy! u are carrying a metal in ya pocket!! but hey.. it protect ya cards dude! that's the main thing
2) u wanna perform, u take out ya card guard and do some fancy openers and spins and flips. spec will see wow.. nice and shiny thing.. wat that?... then u explain... take it out and do ya stuff...
3 and yeah.... i leave my box in the card clip and put in my pocket. i have no worry as i know its protected.
4) lastly, it makes u feel more pro.

Of course, if u can afford a joe porper... go ahead man... but i like the shinyness of the stainless still one and it has served me well. by the way, my card clip has lots of tiny scratches... but so wat?.. it stil does the job and because its shiny.. u dont really see the scratches unless u look closely.so yeah... tat's just my opinion.

for those who dont have card clips, go get the card clips man. 12 bucks from cynwell a bargain. but oh well.. i guess the dateline is over. its a good investment and it will surely come to good use.

Cheers,
MagicB

From what i know and heard from Bone, Card Clip spoils your card box -_-

yes, mine scratches my card box... but it prevents it from getting squased.... i dont mind some light scratches on my card box... it looks kinda cool to have some... looks like its been used and faded... quite nice effect :)

i have a experience where i put the empty box into the card guard, but it still got squashed. some idiots fall onto my bag.

Getting a card clip will be nice. I getting one and then going to design on it. Crave Design, which will make it nicer and unqiue to me. Hehe. But it depends on each one of you. If u worried that your card case will be damaged, you can stick a thin layer of rubber tape on the edges. Then it will not damage your cover.

Card Clip works to prevent warpping of your cards, as some magic, unless you hold your deck right hard, people will notice the face up and face down cards and make it unpleasant looking, exposing the trick also.

Juz what i am thinking.

go where to make designs? how much?

huh? :blink:

anyway, my card clip protects BOTH the box and the deck. 2 months old deck still looks pretty darn new. as it so happens, my card clip extends for about 1mm (to quote gordie) therefore protecting the edges of my box too. on the other hand, a Porper does not extend over the edges of the box, and therefore wear and tear to the corners of each box would occur.

You could design the card clip too... one example would be to try to cut out a stencil of the bicycle logo (the box's design), and then use spary paint... and just spary it onto ur card clip. Sounds abit crazy, but doesn't mean you have to just use Bike's design..

Its possible to make a stencil of your name or nick or whatever, and then spary on the color you fancy most.

Just a thought.
Falcon

its all in the design, a well designed card clip should not scratch the card box nor cause any harm to it. and it must definitely not allow external factors to damage the card box.

ps. i'll be bringing some card clips for todays meeting. u can get yours at $6 ea.

Hey Gordie, I just bought your card clip. Well, you mentioned how a card clip shouldnt be full of scratches as it leaves a terrible terrible impression, I too agree.

So, what do you have to say about selling, really badly scratched card clips? Well, i've polished it, and it no, its not the dullness, its really badly scratched.

yep, the card clip i bought was also badly scratch, so was my brother's. the only thing i liked about it is that it protects the entire deck boxl; long enough. but IMO, it doesnt really holds the card in good shape.

anyway, what can u expect from a $6 card clip?

Tell people it's the in thing, ya know... peer pressure.

"You ain't cool until your card clip is scratched!!"

"Come on, don't be a chicken... just give it one scratch!"

Trust me, it'l catch on like wildfire :D

-Kev

LOL.
No no, dont get me wrong. i'm not complaining about how badly scratched it is, well, its 6 bucks what can i expect. But, the irony is that. some one who really emphasizes on appearances like using good decks, and deck guards without scratchs, is actually selling badly scratched clips. Now, how ironic is that?

:mellow: :mellow:

I feel a war may break out anytime now.


Polish it as he says, although ididnt get it.

Or you can do what I'd do in your situation:

Scratch the scratches off.

-Kev

indeed, for a $6 card clip i wouldnt complain much, though i totally agree with what alraven said. btw, i jus realised that no matter how i press the card clip together, they jus cant seem to tighten my cards at all. guess that'll jus be my box protector; its "long" enough. :P

Ah ha, funny ar Kevin.

Nah, you cant polish away the scratches.

Well, you gotta squeeze them really hard. The mouth will betight, but the inner side. not so much.

:off: anyway,how do we polish a card guard anyway.

apply the polish thing? those that our sch the NPCC use to polish their shoes? i gotta ask my dad about these stuff.

anyway, i dont really feel like polishing, since its already that scratched, lol.

but i thought NPCC polish boots one is black?then yr card guard will be black. :blink:

hahaha.. i think use the one npcc use to polish their badges is better...

although i don't have the card guard, i have sumthing to suggest... why not just spray over the card guard? Or it can't be sprayed on? This way you can have your own unique designs using stencils...like Falcon suggested.

No no, dun use SHOE polish. Use Autosol. You'll get a Joe Proper if you use shoe polish. hahaha :D

Then u would have a nice imitation of a porper!! :g:

lol, also, dont forget to get a golden sharpie marker and forge the signature.

if u polish the card clip, the scratches will go away.

let's define the scratches, the scratches removes the oxide layer revealing a more shiny inner layer. but that's exactly how a polish works too! removing the dull, oxide layer to reveal the inner one.

the spine of the card clip is fixed, all u can do to tighten it is to squeeze the other ends together.