Title: What Are You Looking For In A Street Levitation?
Symmatrix - May 8, 2005 10:10 AM (GMT)
Hi,
its great to be back to Singapore Magic Circle, well I believe that most of us had heard of tons of street levitation. Like elevator, elevator 2, king rising, bladducci levitation and may more.
Whats ur favourite and why?
if u are looking for levitation what are you look for in a stree levitation...Sorry I hope that you guys will not look for something that is floating in the air horizontally.
What I wanna do is street levitation that is vertical kind of...
So here are some question to start you off...
1) Cheap/expensive.
2) Easy to do/skill/need practice
3) Any where
4) Anytime
5) Gimmicked/ non-gimmicked
6) end clean/dirty...
and
many more...
I hope you members will be kind enough to give a helping hand...and come in and discuss about this...
Thanks and take care.
Regards
Symmatrix
kryptikalism - May 8, 2005 11:28 AM (GMT)
Your nick sounds familiar.
Truefly?
yujie - May 8, 2005 11:34 AM (GMT)
ya, i also found the nickname to be quite familiar.......are you the inventor for truefly?
GordonLi - May 8, 2005 11:47 AM (GMT)
i rmb seeing it on his site though, www.symmatrixmagic.com if im not wrong. used to have a good forum.
regarding street levitation, i dont really mind the price or difficulty, the important thing is:
1. good angles (!!!!!!)
2. can be done anywhere, anytime (!!!!!)
3. end clean (!!!!!)
4. preferably ungimmicked
Symmatrix - May 8, 2005 12:04 PM (GMT)
kryptikalism/Yujie - Yup! Kryptikalism n Yujie. If u heard before True Fly its under the name of Symmatrix Magic. But the Creator is not me. Its Sean Osiris. As I know there is tons of MISUNDERSTANDING on this matter that I m the creator of True Fly.
Gordie - Thanks for the fast responsive. Well thanks for information provided. As I can see that those are the scope tat you are looking for for a real street levitation. Well, is there any levitation in the market that is that close to your expectation. Pls tell us more.
Regards
Symmatrix
GordonLi - May 8, 2005 12:29 PM (GMT)
none i know of meet all the criterias, but some meet the first 3 but are gimmicked. (pardon me, im bad at rmbring names). but these dont have too good angles anyway (not that i can really expect much out of levitation).
anyway, i guess u guys know what are the levitations im talking abt, even without me saying the names?
Symmatrix - May 8, 2005 12:37 PM (GMT)
Gordie - Well its great to hear that from u. That those covers the first 3 aspect. But would it be cool for a street levitation that ables to cover the first 3 aspect and perform almost all round (270 degree to 300 degree).
Would u accept such gimmick that is easy to be perform and easily to pull off in ur performance...I just wonder.
Let me know again. Gordie.
Take Care
Regards
Symmatrix
GordonLi - May 8, 2005 12:40 PM (GMT)
if the gimmick stays on throughout, it must not arouse suspicion.
if it is to be added and/or removed during the performance, it must either not be seen during those times, or have certain motivations for you to add and/or remove it.
Symmatrix - May 8, 2005 12:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (gordie @ May 8 2005, 08:40 PM) |
if the gimmick stays on throughout, it must not arouse suspicion.
if it is to be added and/or removed during the performance, it must either not be seen during those times, or have certain motivations for you to add and/or remove it. |
Great to hear that from you....just wonders how other think of this kind of street leviatation. Hoping to hear more from them.
If you have any more else to comment...do feel free to comment...
Just ask.
Regards
Symmatrix
Blackwing - May 17, 2005 10:31 AM (GMT)
Well if you want my opinion, here it is.
I feel levitations cannot be done on the street. I treat magic as an art that must never be exposed so I feel that doing a levitation on the street (especially orchard) is pure madness. I dunno man, I only levitate for people in a secluded area. Anyway, I love levitations where people can see your feet lift off the floor. I feel the balducci has been overexposed so I don't do that. My favourite would be King rising cos its not exposed, yet.
Blackwing - May 17, 2005 10:42 AM (GMT)
Oh yeah I forgot to say, I think elevator / elevator 2 is really cool cos you can rotate abit here and there but, I feel the levitating height is a bit too low. Still prefer king rising.
Symmatrix - May 17, 2005 12:33 PM (GMT)
Hi BlackWing,
Thanks for the kind opinion. Well I strongly agree with u that currently that there is no street levitation that is to do surrounded completely without exposing it.
Where most of the levitation is done with angle and space constrain. As for Bladucci levitation, this is one of the street levitation that is expose to the public most.
As for Elevator, Its kinda regret that when I found the secret how it is done. Therefore I never look into Elevator 2. As for king rising, certain requirement is required to accomplish the maximum effect of this levitation therefore. Its not something thats my type.
Regards
Symmatrix
nyx - June 25, 2005 04:54 PM (GMT)
Hi symmatrix
in my opinion, a street levitation has to have some height off the ground. You don't want people to squat down and look beneath your feet. Beneath the feet is where i presume all the dirty work is done.
If in anyway, the dirty work isn't there, it'll be quite a perfect levitation.
Guys, let's not say it's impossible.. Look at David Copperfield's flying!
jimgerrish - June 27, 2005 09:23 PM (GMT)
I assume you guys are aware that the same levitation David Copperfield does, called "Flying," can be done on the street as well as in a theater. It just needs the proper setting and an assistant. You wouldn't fly all over the place, but you COULD rise up to the top of a building or a fire escape.
Symmatrix - June 30, 2005 12:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nyx @ Jun 26 2005, 12:54 AM) |
Hi symmatrix
in my opinion, a street levitation has to have some height off the ground. You don't want people to squat down and look beneath your feet. Beneath the feet is where i presume all the dirty work is done.
If in anyway, the dirty work isn't there, it'll be quite a perfect levitation.
Guys, let's not say it's impossible.. Look at David Copperfield's flying! |
Great opinion, nyx. I know that levitation with great height is one break thru in magic. As all of magician and illusionist are looking forward to have a good height for leviatation....
As for what you say in audience for looking underneath the feet is another issue. Not all illusion is suitable for Singapore Magician and illusionist. As we know Singapore behaviour and reaction. They always tends to squad down and try to move to sides to have a better view of the levitation. But to the truth fact they are finding the secret too...
Its hardly to control your audience from their movement especially for Singaporean.
I believe that all of us, magician and illusionist, are working hard to build good street levitation. And mostly are not surround proof, therefore I hope to help to breakthru the art of street levitation with the comments and discussion from you guys.
Regards
Symmatrix
Symmatrix - June 30, 2005 12:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jimgerrish @ Jun 28 2005, 05:23 AM) |
| I assume you guys are aware that the same levitation David Copperfield does, called "Flying," can be done on the street as well as in a theater. It just needs the proper setting and an assistant. You wouldn't fly all over the place, but you COULD rise up to the top of a building or a fire escape. |
Hmm...David Copperfield Flying illusion...Well...are u expecting that ???
Well I believe that's the closest and perfected levitation illusion ever created. But that is out of our cost and budget. :)
I hope that we can make cool and simpler and affordable street levitation from these discussions.
Regards
Symmatrix
kryptikalism - June 30, 2005 06:25 PM (GMT)
How are body levitations entertaining to an audience? Especially Singaporean audiences. They know you're not doing it for real, so why present them with a puzzle?
Spellbinder - June 30, 2005 10:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Symmatrix @ Jun 30 2005, 08:58 PM) |
But that is out of our cost and budget.I hope that we can make cool and simpler and affordable street levitation from these discussions. |
Are you sure about that? Do you know how it is done? If you want to continue to do one legged stands on street corners, that's one thing, or if you are afraid of heights, that's another. But the cost of using the same gimmick for a simple street levitation would be about $100 USD, plus whatever you have to pay your assistant. If you are dependent on passers by throwing small change your way, that would be a big expense, but if you did it even once, I guarantee your crowds would grow. I'm not talking about duplicating the entire routine that you see David Copperfield doing on TV... just one quick small part of it. Say good by and rise into the sky.
Symmatrix - July 1, 2005 04:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (kryptikalism @ Jul 1 2005, 02:25 AM) |
| How are body levitations entertaining to an audience? Especially Singaporean audiences. They know you're not doing it for real, so why present them with a puzzle? |
well...I do agree with you kryptikalism that performing to Singaporean Audience takes lots of courage and experience to pull a street levitation like this on the streets. But as a magician, we can't allow the mind concept of such thinking that Singapore knows that levitation can't be real and we try to makes things easy just to entertain them..
What I can say is that if you takes things having such a mind set. Well, its sad to say that you are not try hard to amaze, amuse and astound to Singaporean.
As we know that making magic is to make the impossible to be possible. So Trying to convince the audience to make real magic to take place is our duty of Magician/Illusionist.
Its not just a puzzle but just a art to makes magic magical and entertaining to the audience with safe keeping our art secrets.
Regards
Symmatrix
Symmatrix - July 1, 2005 04:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Spellbinder @ Jul 1 2005, 06:37 AM) |
| QUOTE (Symmatrix @ Jun 30 2005, 08:58 PM) | But that is out of our cost and budget.I hope that we can make cool and simpler and affordable street levitation from these discussions. |
Are you sure about that? Do you know how it is done? If you want to continue to do one legged stands on street corners, that's one thing, or if you are afraid of heights, that's another. But the cost of using the same gimmick for a simple street levitation would be about $100 USD, plus whatever you have to pay your assistant. If you are dependent on passers by throwing small change your way, that would be a big expense, but if you did it even once, I guarantee your crowds would grow. I'm not talking about duplicating the entire routine that you see David Copperfield doing on TV... just one quick small part of it. Say good by and rise into the sky.
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Well said, i do agree with the compatibility of the expense buying a good levitation to a good group of audience will to pay to see such an illusion. But I believe having low cost to sustain a good effect is well more than enough. As I am not going to deep sophisticated illusion design but something that Singapore Teenager Magician/Illusion that is workable and affordable for them.
So I hope that you can contribute some cool disccusion and suggestion. So that more teenagers can work on illusion other than working on just flourishes and cards.
Thanks Spellbinder.
Regards
Symmatrix
Spellbinder - July 3, 2005 04:40 AM (GMT)
While I don't perform in the street anymore, Wizard magic is entirely suitable to street shows because it doesn't rely on boxes and huge stage props. A self-levitation is only one example of a propless Illusion that might be done by a Wizard on stage or a performer in the street. Others that come to mind are appearances, vanishes, penetrations, and transformations... all done without props, or with only those props that can be found on the street. Like a Wizard, the street performer must learn to "think outside the box," because you can't drag a big box illusion around with you. However, you might have access to garbage cans, bicycles, newspapers and other things like that.
Here's a typical scenario I have adapted from a Wizard magic effect and changed into a street effect: The street Wizard holds a newspaper up as if reading it. The newspaper is then lowered to reveal someone else wearing the Wizard's clothes, a young lady, perhaps. She points to a nearby doorway and suddenly the street Wizard, in a different outfit, appears from beneath a "cloak of invisibility."
You could probably imagine such a scene taking place on a stage, but there is no reason it could not be done a few feet away from a small audience on a busy street. Wizard magic is like that.
The cost? A newspaper, two street Wizard outfits, a third outfit, and a home-made invisibility cloak. If you have a girlfriend about your own size who also sews, you are all set!
Symmatrix - July 7, 2005 11:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Spellbinder @ Jul 3 2005, 12:40 PM) |
While I don't perform in the street anymore, Wizard magic is entirely suitable to street shows because it doesn't rely on boxes and huge stage props. A self-levitation is only one example of a propless Illusion that might be done by a Wizard on stage or a performer in the street. Others that come to mind are appearances, vanishes, penetrations, and transformations... all done without props, or with only those props that can be found on the street. Like a Wizard, the street performer must learn to "think outside the box," because you can't drag a big box illusion around with you. However, you might have access to garbage cans, bicycles, newspapers and other things like that.
Here's a typical scenario I have adapted from a Wizard magic effect and changed into a street effect: The street Wizard holds a newspaper up as if reading it. The newspaper is then lowered to reveal someone else wearing the Wizard's clothes, a young lady, perhaps. She points to a nearby doorway and suddenly the street Wizard, in a different outfit, appears from beneath a "cloak of invisibility."
You could probably imagine such a scene taking place on a stage, but there is no reason it could not be done a few feet away from a small audience on a busy street. Wizard magic is like that.
The cost? A newspaper, two street Wizard outfits, a third outfit, and a home-made invisibility cloak. If you have a girlfriend about your own size who also sews, you are all set! |
Nice post ! Spellbinder....I love the effect that you mention and its kinda cool to achieve this is effect on the street. Especially with the crown that you created..It create a good opportunity and distraction to make this move.
I love the idea...But I believe if we carry on this discussion on this effect. The following post will be out of track as this thread is discussing about Street Levitation Effect.
Its great to hear from you and I hope to talk more about other great effect from you, Spellbinder.
Regards
Symmatrix