Anyone has this book? its super expensive man... those who have it.. please tell me how u find it. Its only pics and there seem to be black and white rite? Are the explanations clear? i mean the moves are complicated... how can u imagine wat it looks like without a vid for all the moves? please write ya comments.. would love to hear from those of u who has it.

there is a DVD on the moves in the bible.. yep it expensive and in is is picture and words explaination only.. :)

man, i heard so many great things abt this book but price is really a factor.... but its so tempting!!! its like i dowan to regret not geting it.. lol

I may want to buy it. Heard its good if u wanna learn flourish. Weighs 5 pounds. Kinda Heavy. Pm magicb.

im getting a couple of flourish VCDs(ripped courtesy of my friend) for $170... my friend told me that it will include closer, art of card throwing, keone extreme cuts, showoff 1 and 2, capcards, unripped and Gen X. izzit worth it? my instict tells me it is... but juz wanna get a second opinion.

erm... sorry... for all those of you who are against ripping, i would like to inform u that all the mentioned videos are original... but i want them in VCD format so that i can backup easily(juz in case CD spoil suddenly). hope that i haf sufficiently explained myself.

but u are still buying unoriginal stuff from ur friend?

nopez... he does not haf anything that is unoriginal
he orders everything from PM and haiz... ellusionist. sometimes he buys from magic castle and murphys magic supplies.

If you have about 3 lifetimes to live, you can perhaps consider getting the EOPCF, because you'll probably take that long to learn everything :D

Just hope that you are not reincarnated as a beetle, or a N@##%R.. :P :D

hmm true... perhaps geting the system will be wiser...

Erp..

not so wise if you have not mastered bryan tudors stuff. you see..there will be NO talking again.. and imagine the amount of times you have to press the pause button for a move you dont recognise. You are expected to know a few things prior to getting the system. So.. maybe kev can shed more light on this. This aint an easy feat for beginners.. i assure you ;)

ic... im not really beginner... i can do a few false cuts and all... thanx to kevin's tutes on his site... but stil begginer compared to Huron and Kevin la.. they are super good. i wonder where they learn all those moves.. dan and dave? which vids?

(as far as I can recall)
Brian Tudor
Lee Asher
Jerry
De'vo
The Bucks
Themselves. ;)

Anyways, I think that basic stuff like fanning, one-handed revolutions, Tudor's what the hell happened to sybil, bad habit, etc. won't be covered in the System so you'd better start cracking at Tudor's Showoff video and get down some of his stuff well. A lot of the Bucks' material is based on Tudor's stuff so starting with Tudor would be a better option first. ;) Kev can clarify this with you. ;)

Do NOT get the system.. thou art unworthy.

I'm serious, the Dan and Dave system has some of the craziest shit I've ever seen that is seriously NOT for beginners into flourishing. It's more for the seasoned ones like Huron and Chris and Daryl and not to forget, George who already know their shit, and want something that'll take it to the max.. and more.

Get the bible, the rest of you. It has some of the hardest moves EVER, but also covers a lot of basic moves, like fanning and one-handed cuts and armspreads and the like. Then again, if you master those, do try the L-X interpolations, as well as the double-handed blindfold behind-the-back inverted vortex pirouette spinning back-catch upside-down duck-and-cover stretch knuckle-busting spiral madness

It's a knacky move, but completely worth the practice ;)

-Kev

This book is kickass. It's a MUST HAVE for anyone who wants to learn how to XCM... muahaha... straight from the XCM-MAN himself! Jerry...

The System is going to be really tough, but no harm preordering it esp when shipping rates are low now! The stuff in The System range from Tough... to a 2 minute long cut with 7 sequences and 5 displays... so go figure. Sure, some things in the Bible really tough as well, but check out Springjam and you'll know what I mean. The Bible also has more variation as it touches on not just cuts, but armspreads, fans, and XCM of that sort. So.... JUST GET BOTH!!!

Huron