Title: What Is Your Best Card Routine?
Description: Your best, type and duration
zinally - October 19, 2004 04:19 AM (GMT)
Normally when u do card tricks, what is your best, the type and duration of the performance. It may help other magician on selecting their routine for comparison. :ph43r: :ph43r:
phoenixsam - October 19, 2004 08:37 AM (GMT)
MMmmmmm...for mine is really simple.but quite effective(i think) i normally get
reactions whenever i do this routine(maybe because ppl here dont hav much
magic knowledge compared to the states or other countries)
1.i'll straight away go into an INVISIBLE PASS(because SOME people do know a DL) u dont wanna spoil the routine or your night getting caught with a DL.Once they think u can do "REAL" magic and are off-guard,u can do as many DLs as you like and u wont get caught
2.ED-MARLO TILT(is the name correct?) then revealing it with a DL
3.top card goes into deck and reveal the chosen card with a little bit of variety.dont know the name...effect---you throw the deck onto your idle hand and the chosen card appears on top of the deck FACED UP
4.TOP CARD COVER PASS and then do a colour change to reveal(wow!)
5.now SHAPESHIFTER to tell the spectator u can change a card at will(huh?! WHAT THE?!!)
6.square the deck and flick your wrist in the most magical way possible.DL again to show chosen card(by this time,u can tell them the dog they just saw cross the road is an elephant,and they will believe u.....)
7.POP-UP MOVE to reveal the card again(yyyeesss.....my holy highness...watever u say it true.....)
8.now change TEAR the card and then ask them to forget the card and choose another card(saying itz evil,needs to be destroyed...blah blah blah)
9.MECURY CARD FOLD(favourite) and make it appear in handbags,shoes,pocket,bush,mouth,the pouch of the kopitiam auntie or the kopitiam uncle cash register.......wherever u want it to appear
the above routine,if done at a normal speed can easily land 5 mins to 10 mins
Hope this helps! or maybe if u guys may wanna correct me or give me some
comments or advice.Lets improve together!!!
CHEERS!!!
Mystical2004 - October 19, 2004 09:46 AM (GMT)
sounds a bit like the ACR from ninja
JamKid - October 19, 2004 12:17 PM (GMT)
i think it's from crash course.. but anyway...
my best routine is so far the ambitious card... i do it differently everytime, but always get good reaction.
2-card monte is also one of my favorite. never fail to get the stunned look on their face when the flip over the 2 cards... :lol:
my best effective shortest trick will be getting the spec to see a card in the deck while i flip thru them, n by rubbing the top of the deck the card appear magically faced up on the top of the deck (ednase c.c.) though it's not a easy trick to do as too many sleights in a short time. but still cool B)
GordonLi - October 19, 2004 12:26 PM (GMT)
yea, 2CM and Ambitious made very popular by david blaine is also one of my favourite opening tricks. very good to do with any deck, any time, almost no preparations needed.
phoenixsam - October 19, 2004 12:31 PM (GMT)
mm....2card monte is sooo dangerous.can only do to adults,when performing to kids,chances are they will definetly flip the cards over
Winder - October 19, 2004 12:41 PM (GMT)
I believe ACR is the best of all, cause it's really "attractive" enough, haha. Best of all, everybody is trying to see how you make the card jump up and up.
phoenixsam - October 19, 2004 01:02 PM (GMT)
my routines comes from a CC2 and NINJA
i got the video some time ago when it was like 30+ bucks.phew....now the price shoots up to forty +
Brendan - October 20, 2004 04:16 PM (GMT)
haha.. yeah a typical ellusionist ACR move... Its a great trick that one...
In terms of order of performance this is wat i normally do...
1) four ace trick (to warm up)
2) Hot shot cut move to reveal the card the spec remembered in his head
3) ACR
4) 2 card monte
5) biddle move
6) Triumph
7) small packet tricks ( i mean dunt need full deck ones.. and ones that uses various counts..
etc etc...
but normally they are already v impress after ACR and 2 card monte...
I try not to show all the tricks i know.... i dont think we should show too many tricks at one time
Any other good ones?
Winder - October 20, 2004 04:19 PM (GMT)
Hmm... if i were you, i would do 2 card monte first then ACR. Cause after ACR, some laymen or hecklers might want to get you with anything suspicious. Just a suggestion :)
Huron - October 20, 2004 06:08 PM (GMT)
Haha... actually it's possible to perform 2CM to kids. Just tell them it's a guessing game. Works every time. The 'routines' that I do are made up on the spot, and I just keep doing whatever BS I can come up with till I run dry. Then REPEAT EVERYTHING. MUAHAHAHAHA!!! If there's one guy whose routines you just have to watch, it's Kevin. And this super cool guy called Huron. But the latter is an understatement.hahaha.... :rolleyes:
CLJ has an INSANE routine named 4WD. It stand for 4 Wheel Drive and it's a beautifully constructed routine with tons of transpos and multiple kickers. You MUST see it when you meet CLJ. That's of course... if he takes out his cards. :P
Huron
Brendan - October 21, 2004 05:57 AM (GMT)
haha cool... would love to see ya effects. about performing 2CM first then ACR might be alright but its just that 2CM effect is so strong and so powerful.... i always try to save that for last but i never do coz there's always more to come after i finish with one trick hehe...
Huron and Kevin. I would love to see ya performance man.. heard that u guys rock. lol. Kevin, i love ya tutes in ya site.
CLJ - October 21, 2004 09:13 AM (GMT)
Huron and Kevin are BS magicians... in that everything they do is made up on the spot and they just flow through the entire performance like that, and it works extremely extremely extremely well for them. That's something I could never do. ;) Everything just flows all so well.
Something I used to perform a lot last time was Doug Malloy's When signatures Collide. I don't now. Something that I really like is David Regal's Self Evident, which I really want to try out some time. I also like Triumphs. The most kickass triumph ever is Jay Sankey's Back in Time. When I was in Colorado last year, I performed this up in the mountains to a whole bunch of people, and one of the gals swore her own watch moved back in time. Scary stuff. :D :D Richard Sander's Time Boards from Roadkillers kills as well... you can tell from the reactions Huron gets with it (I don't know if H. does it anymore though) :D
Oh, this is a bit off-topic, but has anyone seen Kostya kimlat's triumph? I've heard a whole lot about it and I really want to see it, but I don't know where to get his lecture notes from.
Moondust - November 20, 2004 03:55 PM (GMT)
Mine's very Daryl-influenced. I do a ACR with a blank deck of 51 cards with 1 normal card. I'll prep the deck with a gaffless version of Dai Vernon's "The Trick that Fooled Houdini."
Force card on top, perform Push-through False Riffle Shuffle
Follow final cut with Up the Ladder cut.
Follow the last move with Slydini's False Table cut.
Start routine by forcing the normal card with a Riffle Slip Force.
Do "The Trick that Fooled Houdini" twice.
Clean up the "gaff" and show the Ambitious Card (AC) at the top once again (1st stage).
Clean up the "gaff" by putting the AC face up at centre visibly (2nd stage).
Perform Midnight Shift. AC "jumps" up face up to the top.
Slot AC in the centre face down, perform Dribble Control and catch a break.
Perform a Riffle Pass and the card appears at the bottom. Cite that the ACR sometimes go wrong and the card appears in the bottom other than the top.
Do a Tilt and a Larry Jenning's Snap Double. AC is once again at the top.
Leave the apparent AC (indifferent card) on the table. Place the deck on top and do the Ambitious Movie. AC visually travels to the top.
I can't do this routine very well but I try to flow through fast so that it looks too easy and nonchalant. That constitutes to the illusion of the entire deck appearing to be a one way deck consisting of the AC.
At this point of time, the spectator is almost convinced the whiole deck consists of the AC. Further "confirm" that by admitting that you have been using duplicates and have "flopped" the trick and do a couple of displays like the flustration count and Hindu Shuffle Bottom Display. The person watching you will start being smug and are probably quietly laughing at what a klutz you are.
The big finale: Mention that the duplicates aren't exactly the same card as the one they have chosen...the duplicates are in fact all blank cards...every single one of them.
hahahaha! Sit back and enjoy the reactions.
ren8585 - November 20, 2004 04:08 PM (GMT)
wow thats something ive never thought of lol ... very nice i must say :P
illusionist - November 20, 2004 04:13 PM (GMT)
Wao bro you tell everybody your trick hahahaha.. yep really cool doing with blank face deck lol... :D
Moondust - November 20, 2004 04:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ren8585 @ Nov 21 2004, 12:08 AM) |
| wow thats something ive never thought of lol ... very nice i must say :P |
:D What's nicer is the shock on their faces. Takes a little practice (especially the [exposure deleted]) but try it out and enjoy!
Moondust - November 20, 2004 04:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (illusionist @ Nov 21 2004, 12:13 AM) |
| Wao bro you tell everybody your trick hahahaha.. yep really cool doing with blank face deck lol... :D |
Nvm lah... I like to share ideas :) I don't even mind constructive criticisms because I believe my routine can be improved further while under the scrutiny from fellow-magicians.
I don't think I committed exposure right? After all, laymen won't understand the moves I mentioned unless they have studied magic themselves.
I'm exhausting my resources from Daryl liao. Now I need my Lennart Green vids :)
illusionist - November 20, 2004 04:35 PM (GMT)
hahahahaha hope you still doing sliverware bending lol.. :D
Moondust - November 20, 2004 04:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (illusionist @ Nov 21 2004, 12:35 AM) |
| hahahahaha hope you still doing sliverware bending lol.. :D |
Of course! That's good stuff man! Excellent! hahaha! I showed my bro already but I haven't taught him. You can ask him how he feels! LOL!
Xtreme - November 21, 2004 07:27 AM (GMT)
:blink: .... that silverware bending.. arff.. LOL.. it looks so damn real.. esp e twisting .. must ask my bro how to do it.. LOL.. he says i must learn my DLs and hermann change right first.. no chioce ma.. i am only a novice in magic.. prac prac n prac lor.. :)
illusionist - November 21, 2004 08:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Xtreme @ Nov 21 2004, 03:27 PM) |
| :blink: .... that silverware bending.. arff.. LOL.. it looks so damn real.. esp e twisting .. must ask my bro how to do it.. LOL.. he says i must learn my DLs and hermann change right first.. no chioce ma.. i am only a novice in magic.. prac prac n prac lor.. :) |
Yep practice alot hahaha the silverware bending I taught your bro how its done lol... when I first show him he was amaze too.. :D
Xtreme - November 21, 2004 12:45 PM (GMT)
ooo.. so its you who taught my bro.. wow..haha.. he told me he learned it from one of his friends.. haha.. how you get to know my bro ? cool B)
Xtreme - November 23, 2004 03:16 PM (GMT)
wow.. so cheem card routines.. ^_^ woah..
Moondust - November 30, 2004 07:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ren8585 @ Nov 21 2004, 12:08 AM) |
| wow thats something ive never thought of lol ... very nice i must say :P |
Hey Ren, remember the Cyclic Order I mentioned to you when I last met you? (the one that creates a shocker when you play "Big Two") I found out a way to incorporate an Ambitious Card Routine using that, and because of it, it has a HUGE kicker ending.
I've further improved on it using basic mathematical calculations and you might want to give this technique some thought because the result is un-freaking-believable! I'm planning to film a vid on it to be posted for a small online magic competition. Unfortunately, it needs plenty of practice and I can't do the Ed Marlo Tilt as well as you do :lol: ...
If I can get the link up in time, I'll let you know so that you can see it. I know you don't like long card effects, but if you like the impact on this one, let me know. Theoretically, it's far better than my "Blank Ambition" routine.
Wait for the good news!
Aloy - November 30, 2004 09:16 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Moondust @ Nov 30 2004, 03:41 PM) |
Hey Ren, remember the Cyclic Order I mentioned to you when I last met you? (the one that creates a shocker when [sniped for brevity] Theoretically, it's far better than my "Blank Ambition" routine.
Wait for the good news! |
Interesting interesting.....
Are you coming for the next outing man? Show us at the outing...
Moondust - November 30, 2004 09:28 AM (GMT)
Bro, it's different doing it for the camera and doing it real life! Lol! My hands still shake when I perform this!
I'll try my best, I'll promise. Even if I can't do it real-life, you can still watch it online when I get it uploaded.
Like I mentioned before, I may seem knowledgeable and stuff, but please don't be disappointed by my performance because I'm still far from perfect.
I taught Ren my handling for my Ultimate Jazz Aces routine (which will be the second routine I intend to submit for the competition). He had given me lots of tips on natural movements and grace. I'm still trying my best to brush up on these areas.
Nevertheless, I really hope that I can meet up with you soon.
Moondust - November 30, 2004 06:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Morphine @ Nov 30 2004, 05:16 PM) |
Interesting interesting.....
Are you coming for the next outing man? Show us at the outing...
|
Errr boss? I really hope I can get the routine down in time for the meet.
It wasn't as easy as I initially thought it would be. A couple of Lennart Green moves in the routine seriously took its toll. After 5 hours of non-stop practice, I'm far from completion and now my shoulders and my wrists ache like crazy.
This isn't fun anymore :wacko: lol.
ren8585 - November 30, 2004 10:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Moondust @ Nov 30 2004, 03:41 PM) |
Hey Ren, remember the Cyclic Order I mentioned to you when I last met you? (the one that creates a shocker when you play "Big Two") I found out a way to incorporate an Ambitious Card Routine using that, and because of it, it has a HUGE kicker ending.
I've further improved on it using basic mathematical calculations and you might want to give this technique some thought because the result is un-freaking-believable! I'm planning to film a vid on it to be posted for a small online magic competition. Unfortunately, it needs plenty of practice and I can't do the Ed Marlo Tilt as well as you do :lol: ...
If I can get the link up in time, I'll let you know so that you can see it. I know you don't like long card effects, but if you like the impact on this one, let me know. Theoretically, it's far better than my "Blank Ambition" routine.
Wait for the good news! |
oooo ... i didnt wanted to use blank cards for my acr because it dosent suit my routine and on top of it i wanted to keep the blanks for other effects.. showing too much blanks to spectators too often isnt good too.. haha..they wouldnt be surprise if i show blanks in 3 diff effects.. will be interested in ur new effect .. good luck and ur pratice :P cheers bro
Aloy - December 1, 2004 05:39 AM (GMT)
You guys have been training hard secretly............ B)
Moondust - December 1, 2004 08:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ren8585 @ Dec 1 2004, 06:37 AM) |
| oooo ... i didnt wanted to use blank cards for my acr because it dosent suit my routine and on top of it i wanted to keep the blanks for other effects.. showing too much blanks to spectators too often isnt good too.. haha..they wouldnt be surprise if i show blanks in 3 diff effects.. will be interested in ur new effect .. good luck and ur pratice :P cheers bro |
Thanx bro. No no. No blank cards this time, normal deck, fully examinable.
I'm finding it hard to adapt because you'll need a couple a Passes and the Circulation Shuffle to pull it off. 3 bloody hours yesterday night just for the shuffle alone.
You'll need a table to perform, so it may not be your cup of tea. But overall, I think you'll like the effect though ;)
Aloy - December 1, 2004 09:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Moondust @ Dec 1 2004, 04:58 PM) |
| You'll need a table to perform, so it may not be your cup of tea. But overall, I think you'll like the effect though ;) |
I think i will like the effect too B)
Show us the effect at the outing man!
Moondust - December 1, 2004 11:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Morphine @ Dec 1 2004, 05:10 PM) |
I think i will like the effect too B)
Show us the effect at the outing man! |
You know what? I think I will. It looks like crap on video. Can't seem to get the damn angles right. Instead, I'm submitting my Ultimate Jazz Aces for the competition. It's Jazz Aces inspired by Arnaud Chevrier (nic "Twins") over at Magic Video Depot with a few handling changes. Not like the crappy Penguin version, my handling allows cards to be shown seperately, not set up beforeehand. It also allows the table cards to be sjpwn face up, with a Herman Pass and a Shapeshifter to enhance the transposition.
Don't think I'll win, but it's my first vid online anyway. I'll try to get a link up so that you can see how stiff my card handling is! :lol:
poping - December 4, 2004 07:27 AM (GMT)
Rossini Location then do the ACR...
-put the top card into the middle. Back to the top
-Do a One Hand Top Pass. Bingo, Back to the top~!
Ask the spectator if he wants a closer look , he would surely say 'Yes'. Move closer BESIDE him.
-Do my own version of 'The Pass' Show then all sides of the deck. Back to the top.
-Do the Riffle Force , Then the card goes to the top. And i flick , flunk and the card changes.
-Then i do the False Multiple Cut, Triple Cuts and Le Pauls 'Cut' . And Back to the top~!
-Braue Pop-Up Move
CLJ - December 4, 2004 08:47 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (poping @ Dec 4 2004, 03:27 PM) |
Rossini Location then do the ACR...
-put the top card into the middle. Back to the top
-Do a One Hand Top Pass. Bingo, Back to the top~!
Ask the spectator if he wants a closer look , he would surely say 'Yes'. Move closer BESIDE him.
-Do my own version of 'The Pass' Show then all sides of the deck. Back to the top.
-Do the Riffle Force , Then the card goes to the top. And i flick , flunk and the card changes.
-Then i do the False Multiple Cut, Triple Cuts and Le Pauls 'Cut' . And Back to the top~!
-Braue Pop-Up Move |
No offence or anything, but your ACR just doesn't sound...very structured.
"One-hand Top Pass"? What is that? If you meant E's "one-handed pass", that's Jack Merlin's Tip Over change.
"your own version of the pass" - I highly doubt you created your own "version", seeing that there are thousands of pass variations, and just for the classic, and not even for the LePaul spread pass or the Hermann pass.
I don't understand how the riffle force could be used in the middle of an ACR, with the way you phrased it. "Do a riffle force, and card goes on top" - Whaaat?
What d'you mean by "flick, flunk and the card changes?"
"alse Multiple Cut, Triple Cuts and Le Pauls 'Cut'" - using this in an ACR just defeats its purpose - in an ACR, the card rises to the top through IMPOSSIBLE means. You put the card in the middle, it comes back to the top. No fancy manipulation of the cards whatsoever. By incorporating what you call 'multiple cuts, triple cuts and lepauls 'cut' (I have no idea what you mean by the way, and man, that sounds like a truckload of cuts you're using in an ACR), that negates the magical-ness (if there was such a word) of an ACR.
Lastly, the entire routine just sounds really, really jumbled. There's no order. I believe that an ACR should, number 1, "grow" with each phase. As in, each phase builds upon the previous one, and becomes stronger, and stronger, until you reach the climax. In your routine, you start off with passes, blah blah, and you choose to end with "triple cuts and multiple cuts" - why put the stronger phases in front and weaker phases behind? That would be like an anti-climax to the spectators. Imagine (for example), you starting by just putting a card facedown in the deck, and then having it rise to the top. Then, in the NEXT phase, you leave it face-UP and have it rise to the top instead. (riffle pass) On the last phase, you actually leave it sticking out of the deck and have it rise to the top outjogged all the way (Kosby's Raise Rise, Gaetan Bloom's Escalator), or put a visible bend in it and have it rise to the top, or have it appear in-between your lips (Jerry Sadowitz's loading move).
Anyways, as far as Ambitious card routines go, creating your own is the best. Just don't overkill (think Daryl in his supposed "FISM award winning routine"). Tommy Wonder has an awesome ACR in his Visions of Wonder dvd set, and so does Gregory Wilson in Pyrotechnic Pasteboards with his Point Blank routine. Or you could do what people like Huron or Kev do and just come up with everything on the spot...works just as well ;)
And...yeah, I guess that's it for now.
C.
Moondust - December 4, 2004 05:18 PM (GMT)
The abovementioned routine seems very Ellusionist-influenced...especially where the One-Handed Pass is concerned. That's what Brad Christian does to confused people who knows what a Pass is.