Does anybody here uses gimmicked coin tricks?

Almost all gimmicked coins are US currency. How do you explain away using these coins rather than the coins in everyone's pockets?

I like gimmicked coins a lot, recently bought The Mark by dunno who from Magic Castle at an unnecessarily high price. But it's a really cool effect. Just the use of 1/2 dollars seems so......well, gimmicked.


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have s'pore coins custom-made. i have one f****** coin(s'pore 1 dollar coin) being made by roy kueppers. costs us$35. i think expanded s***** will cost much more.

geezzz i didnt know singapore coin can be made! is it leagal? do we have to order online+shiping or thier office/factory is in singapore... i never own gimmick coins becase its Us coins... audience would be asking u if u could do it with a regular coin haha

ok nvm i got the web site http://www.roykueppers.com/customwork.html

Wow....i never knew that!! That is fantastic!! No more dodgy American quaters or half dollars. Do tell us when you get it how's the workmanship. I would so get it man. Can they do other gimmicks like locking and/or non-locking s***** or just folding coin?

Possible to have discounts having more done?

if we can get gd discount tro purchase in bulk, any of u interested to get something? expanded s***** is 1 thing i really want to get. almost got a australian one when i went to a magic shop in sydney. but really ex

Whats wrong with using US coins? I use it all the time, they don't question it.

If they do ask, just tell them you collect odd coins and the half dollars are nice and big.

The thing about using gaffs is to know how to do switches. I don't use gaffs all the time thus have no problem with examinations.

I've also own a couple of Singapore coin gaffs. Roy makes some decent coins but not the best. I've got a Scoth and Soda that is not very usable due to the material of our coin. I've got Lassen coins sets and they are a beauty but not the price though. A expanded shell can easily set you at US$80 exclude shipping.

hmmmm......the workmanship is ok, not the best of best. but for the price, i think it is just right. us$35 for the folding coin, n it has d groove :( . i havent been to roy kueppers website for a long time. but i heard he has revamped his website and offer more n better products. i think todd lassen's workmanship will be better, but that's just my view cos i never had one from todd lassen.


as for s'pore vs us coins, i think it is according to each's preference. for me, i like s'pore gimmicked coins better. e.g. mths back then, i borrow a 1 dollar coin from my frend, with the gimmicked coin in my other hand, do a switch(classic or thumb, whatever is your style), n bite d coin. after restoration, do a switch again n return d coin. i think this works for s'pore coins only, as u want d coins 2 be borrowed. if one takes out a american folding coin, it think audience will 'burn ' u more.

for coins across, matrix, i think american or chinese gimmicked coins are all right. but again s'pore coins will be much better cos they are everyday use. we all carry s'pore coins.....haha....but do a coin across with s'pore coin sh**** means 200 bucks have to be spent.........

oh, btw roy kuepers a nice guy 2 deal with. reply email fast. d whole thing takes ard 1 mth to complete, plus postage, etc..........it takes 2 mths before i receive it.


yujie

I have Keupper's and Lassen's coins and Lassen's has better quality. The ex[ nearly covers the whole coin. For coins across, I use Paul Harris' PDQ II which don'
t require gimmicks nor extras.

I have a S$1 folding/ bite coin set which is still new and untouched. Anyone interested in a trade/ sale? I got it from a dealer who said it was made overseas (yeah guess u can't do it here)...

As for gimmicks, my very first gimmick was the dynamic coins set which i bought some time back... it's cute, still useit when i'm around kids. they always look so STUNNED when a stack of coins disappears from their palm! *grinz*

Hey, I'm interested in buying the S$1 coin off you if you wanna sell. But how much do you want for it? Will you post it in the Marketplace please? THanks


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Those who own the bite coin, please do not perform it as how Blaine performed. I think this gives the method away. Roth has other uses for this gimmick. It can be used in coins across too.

yup, sure will do... i've got a whole list of stuff for trade, etc.

1 thing about grrls is that we buy things like crazy... haha, but after i started my class 2b, i had to be a tad more stringent with my shopping *sniff sniff* so well, yeah, i realised as a newbie months ago, i went a bit nuts with all the new and cool looking toys out in the market...

now i realise i don't have the capacity to use all these things... i have to master the things i'm passionate about first or i'd be a... jill of all trades, mistress of none??? hahaha... erm, but i'm still infatuated with hot leads by jim pace. it looks so darn awesome!!!!

anyways, my list is kinda long, so will take awhile to make a list. got loads of mentalism stuff that would be more suitable for pro/expert/intermediate magis like you guys out there *grin*

i hope we can all learn from each other ;-) will try to upload the list ASAP... meanwhile, take care you guys!!!

I'm intrested to get the S$1 f****** coin too. Anyone know where else can I get it.

hi pseudo! :-)

i got mine for like $55 or $60 months ago from a dealer who got it specially made in the USA. check out the past threads here... some of the guys have links to a gimmick coin maker in the states as well.

but er, well if morphine doesn't want the $1 coin from me you can always get it from me... its still new in the plastic and all <g> too bad you cant come for the meeting later. maybe some other time?

see you ard!

I do some coin work myself and nobody actually questions why i use them. Using a foreign coin would also make the audience pay more attention to the trick as they would want to c the coins as they haven't seen them before. Just prepare normal half dollars and swtich if u are using gimmicks and then just let them inspect the coins

Hey!!! Wanna ask if the S$1 coin bite is half f***** or can be f***** in 2 ways like the US quarter?

Ning.. I think u kena cheated leh... i bot mine for $40 and I already thought quite ex... so i bot 2 and sold the other for 1.5 times the price i paid. (long time ago). Come this hols my friend and I will check out the workshops at school... with any luck there'll be some laser engraver/cutter haha then we can spend the hols churning out f****** coins!

btw anyone has grooveless f****** coins? i've seen them advertised but nvr up close. would like to know how they are constructed.

For me, this is an easy issue. I'm American, so obviously I use American coins... hehe.

I also use my "travelling coin" patter that Huron is probably sick of already, and it's a coin that I got when I was travelling, and hence it travels all over the place... hehe.

If they DO eventually ask if you can do that with a normal coin, shift gears, borrow a coin, and do quicksilver for them. KILLS, I tell ya ;)

-Kev

LoL. Cool patter kevin.
But honestly, manufacturing gimmicked coins is probably the best method to destroy something and yet make it value added. I mean, paying 50 bux for a $1 coin!? Thats like 4900% value increase! >.<

i used to think its better to use singapore coins, but after trying to source for them, i realised that the american coins in the market are cheaper. not only that, if u have to change all ur gimmicked coins for singapore ones, it will cost a bomb. moreover, ppl dont really question why u use american coins. i just simply tell them that the coins are larger so they can see it clearer and its harder for me to hide it or something. they dont really suspect anything. as as mentioned, if they hand u singapore coins, just do an ungimmicked trick. why spend the money on something extra and needless?

i would agree with gordie. using foreign coins does add a bit of mystery, and a good coin man should be able to do tricks with most coins, local or not. if you're using foreign currency, then it's better to let them inspect the coins first. and the reason for using foreign coins because they're bigger and easier to see is something i say to people too...

yep, and when i explain i use them cos its big, i take a half dollar, and do a visual change to a jumbo coins on the word "BIG". gets a huge reaction, and its a gag that sorts of answers their question but doesnt really. gets a laugh too! :)

um... u guys do know tat gimmicked s'pore coins are illegal .. right?

Actually, gimmicked coin of ANY currency is illegal, even 1/2 dollars and quaters. Because all modern currencies are considered government properties (the government lends you a token to represent the wealth you have) so any intentional damange done to any note or coin is illegal. B)
So it's not just making gimmicked coins, SIGNING a bill of any currency with permenant marker is illegal too, from singapore to US. That's right B) all those videos where someone signs a dollar bill, all of it are evidences of criminal acts. B)

BUT, i seriously doubt the police will want to prosecute a few magicians based on that. :D Unless they are really really really too free, or you are an international drug dealer but they have no evidence to convict you so they just want to make life difficult for you.
That law was created to prevent a MASS destruction of notes and coins, which is rather costly to produce.

I seriously wouldn't worry too much about the "legal issues" because it is illegal in the US, UK, and most of the modern countries too :)

oh.. i see.. so i guess its stil not safe to perform cig thru coin or f****** coin on police men.. heh

Oops! I cut a 10 cent coin into half and did some coin bite thingy. But it's fun to snip metals!

Yeah, I'm wanting to get SG coin gimmicks too.

- Ling

HAHA. jus tell ur audience : " err.. cos those gimmicked coins usually manufactured in america.. oh ya, i was using a gimmick." i was trying to be lame..


when ppl ask..jus say american halfdollar bigger ma.. can palm them more easily in my tricks.. the bigger the better ma, unlike sing 50cents very small yet is the biggest in spore..then appear ur jumbo coin and say ya, this size is the easiest.. ppls then scream their way home...and.. guess wat? u hav escaped their qn!! haha.. lame issnt it?

I hope you don't really tell them that they are easier to palm, this kinda tell them how your effects is done.

Just tell them you collect foreign coins or say that the American coins are bigger and thus more visual for coin effects.

i dont see y there shud be any probs with magicians using half dollars...

they are of a great size, and gimmicks are easily available.

and im sure ur audience will understand u using half dollars if u explain it like what bernard said, or i just say i use them cos their big and easier for them to see, and i cant cheat as easily.

using half dollars also, in a way, set u up as a pro and allow u to command authority and respect. its like using bikes, tallies, or those new black deck styles as compared with using $1 100% plastic coated decks.

as long as u allow them to examine the coins (and cards), and establish urself well, there should be no questions about them! and effects with half dollars may be more visual and amazing then performing with smaller coins (local or not).

Hey Yujie,

thanx for giving me the links immediately after our discussion at the last SMC meet.

I'll probably be ordering the f****** coin, a couple of expanded s****s, ma****** coins from either one of the 2 sources you've given me sometime next month (anyone else wanna place an order with me?).

I've one question though: That means they'll send me quite a few coins back when I'm done with my order. Think I'll have any problems with Customs? Don't want my place to be ransacked by the police just because of a few gaff coins.

i kinda agree with gordie on this one.

singaporean coins are way too small to manipulate, and using bigger coins look so much better.

though i prefer ungimmicked work, foreign coins are still my tools of choice because of the gimmick possibilities that they possess.

PLUS, i recently acquired a set of soft COPPER coins. beat that.

LOL

ermm........personally i dun think so........but your concern is a valid one.......y not u just order one f****** coin first? like to hear some comments from magicdow....... ^_^

Hmm...i think for the F****** coin, it doesn't work very well if it's not profile cut. Maybe not really worth the investment. Having a M******* sg coin could have a lot of interesting effects thou.

Just don't use them by mistake and pay for stuff with them B)

Hey Morphine, that's PRECISELY the reason for using gaffs. While I agree with Farid that manipulation is easier with bigger foreign coins, gaffed local coins somehow appeals to me because of the authenticity and the ability to relate to fellow Singapoeans. Coins are a part of everyday life, and perhaps using local coins will lighten up some of the suspicion and scrutiny when performing to laymen.

Also, I feel that the Raven is seriously under-utilized locally. If done properly, it can be an excellent utility to do really mind-boggling direct effects. I guess the reason why the Raven isn't popular here is due to the absence of good local m******* coins. That gives me a legitimate reason to get those coins done.

Yujie, I guess you're right. I'll go check it out with Bernard on this one. The reason why I wanna order all at one shot is for the sole purpose of saving on frieght...lol. Good Lord, this cost of those coins alone is killing me! I've got to save on whatever I can. This month's going to be tough on my wallet... I've got to pay Cynwell for a couple of gaff decks, his PK Spoon and the Escalator. And then, I was thinking of either ordering or customising a close-up table. AND THEN there's I.F. and the dealer's room! Aaaarrggghh!

Let's hope that Singapore Pools can sponsor my expenditure this coming weekend. :lol:

As long as the declared amount is not above S$400, there'll be no GST involved which also mean that the coins will very likely reach your home with little or no problem at all.

If the declared amount is above S$400, you''l have to go to the custom to collect and pay GST, they can also get you to open the package.

For precision gaffs such as S&S, E[, go to Todd. For non-precision items like M******* coins, C/S, you can try Roy Kuppers which is slightly cheaper.

If you want to get an E[ set, get the walking liberty set (Dean Dill's set) from Jamie Schoolcraft.

For E[, Kennedy's are easy to find matching coins, for walking liberty or Kennedy pristine, soft coins, matching coins wil be a problem unless you order the set from them. A set comes with 1 E[ and 4 matching coins.

If you're getting stuff from Todd, get the locking sliding [ (Morgan soft). this set is really wonderful.

Hey Bernard, are you intending to get any orders for gimmicked coins soon? If so, do give me a call because I want to order them.

And er...I need you advice as well :P

I've got most of the essential coins. Don't think I'll be ordering soon. But the Lassen's 4 coin nest looks cool.

Let me know if you need to know anything.

wah! all so ex...

this year, im gonna expand my coin gaffs collection and change existing ones (if they arent already) to johnson coins. im also gonna buy half dollars dated 1964 (as most gaffs are) and start using them (quite ex though). got english pennies dated 1967 recently.

maybe i'll go for better coin gaffs in the future. but the main reason why im not going for custom made coin gaffs are that they give u 1 E + fitting coins, and im just not comfortable with the idea that it will fit the coin/s provided better than any other. the price also... :(

i might get custom made coin gaffs though if some1 can convince me to, and if i have the $. else, i suppose johnson shud be enough for me at least for now...