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Title: Losing Control


Doublelifter - October 17, 2005 05:26 PM (GMT)
Hi Guys,
Anyone of you guys knows what Lee Asher's "Losing Control" is about.
I understand it's a way of bringing a card to the top but it's not a pass.
I not asking anyone to give the method away as I am keen to know
a method of bringing a card to the top other than using the pass.
Is it worth buying, it cost USD25 bucks. Hope someone can enlighten
me. Cheers.

Magicdow - October 18, 2005 12:34 AM (GMT)
Shuffle and control it to the top?

Dragon - October 18, 2005 09:40 AM (GMT)
It is a decieving way to show a selection is placed back into the middle of the pack. Come on the notes are not that hard to read is it not?

D.

niquetan - October 18, 2005 11:38 AM (GMT)
The control has been around for awhile now and it's origin predates Asher's current handling. I use it occasionally; Asher did outline the handling in detail during his lecture as well.

You've answered your own question actually. It's basically a control, but it's not of the pass variety. Spread - Square - done.

R_jayz - October 18, 2005 12:45 PM (GMT)
This control can be good if used properly, for me it hasn't even worked for a single time :( .

But i would certainly not spend 25 USD on this control... Normal controls and passes are enough for me...

Andy - October 18, 2005 01:27 PM (GMT)
Actually, i do not really like this control. But, just to be fair, it can be deceptively if used at the correct moment, e.g. at the offbeat or done casually (come to think of it, isnt that a requirement of most sleights? :P ).

Its quite scary when performing it so i guess thats why its hard for most people to pull it off casually.

In addition, easy as it may seem, but it actually needs quite a bit of practise to make it look convincing, especially as seen in the clip in the cd-rom where Asher does it with much ease. Its is definitely not a move where you are able to watch once, and immediately perform (despite it seeming that way when i first watched the cd-rom)

Cheers! B)

niquetan - October 18, 2005 05:53 PM (GMT)
Just to add something I left out.

I feel the control doesn't stand alone on a visual level. Just seeing it done can be a little "strange". That is to say, it should be coupled with patter (verbal direction) as well to exude an overall "conviction" when you do it.

On a mechanical level, getting the sleight to work will take a bit of time, as it's not something most of us would be used to doing.

All in all, it's worth knowing about.

Doublelifter - October 20, 2005 05:15 PM (GMT)
Hi,
Thanks for the info guys. I guess to save USD25 bucks I think I
should stick to the classic pass (which I am not good at) or the
spread-pass.

neotrident - October 21, 2005 06:52 AM (GMT)
Losing control is quite a easy way for fooling people and control the card to the top..but u have to apply some techniques in ur presentation like misdirecting(i hope this isn't exposure)..but i don't really use it due to the person i am showing it to..u should know why..

dtjk - October 21, 2005 12:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (neotrident @ Oct 21 2005, 02:52 PM)
Losing control is quite a easy way for fooling people and control the card to the top..but u have to apply some techniques in ur presentation like misdirecting(i hope this isn't exposure)..but i don't really use it due to the person i am showing it to..u should know why..

Misdirection while using The Losing Control?

I dont think so.

If you want to use misdirection to control a card, its just.. super easy, do a Herman or classic pass in slow motion; it'll work as well.

pph3cy - October 21, 2005 04:13 PM (GMT)
its just a personal preference to me. you can use any means or techniques just like neotrident pointed.

whatever, its just a control. use your own "techniques" and of course, use it well




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