is it possible to obtain a spectators thought of number or letter without any stupid maths equation?

Yes, but not 100%

Are maths equations stupid?

I thought it was the geniuses who came up with them.

yeh like what magicdow said not 100%
for alphabets its 1 in 27
for numbers its 1 in infinite

I thought alphabets only have 26 letters? :P

I totally agree with magicdow.. but there are others ways you can do it to get a 100% without using maths :D

you might wan to try david blaine's number pick.. not 100% but chances are high!

Ermm..i find that david blaine number pick sounds quite exaggerating.It is because he is like using mind to read the person's thought of number without any clues or equation..?? Cant be possible right?

Hmm.. actually i've tried his number pick alot of times already.. and altho its not 100%.. i'd say its abt 70%.. you have to rush the person into thinking of a number and not give them too much time to think..

Because the principle that Blaine uses is sort of like wad number first comes to mind for a lay person when those sets of instruction are given..

Sometimes a person names a number that is significant to himself/herself. I personally do not like this method.

ya me too..Because the possibility of getting the number is not very high.If using a set of force instructions,the audience may feel suspicious too.So i normally prefer to use cards for mind prediction.

Thats the beauty of mentalism. You can afford to get stuff wrong once in a while.

Its just how you present it.

my 2 cents.

Just use a swami.

A center tear will do too.

Anyways there are ways to actually force numbers or cards on people subconciously through what I like to call sleight-of-tongue.

But then again the force is never 100%... ever.

I agree with the method tremonti used, i ever do the 1-50, 50-100. and do it to three individual, and get them correct. Dont let them think for too long.. B) The funny thing is that they never ask why is there requirement.. :wacko:

i think math equation are fascinating, and its application in magic is numerous and ingenious. Pls dont underestimate the power of math.

Ya..sometimes you think about the equation that make this magic effect works is quite impossible too. So that is the power of maths! I can say that those people who created these equations are indeed super clever. :D

math genius or not, using complex mathematical equations is not very magical. There are exceptions though (eg. the elephant).

Ermm, i don't quite understand this point. Is it the elephant deck you are talking about? :)

think he's refering to the grey elephant mentalism trick

Thats what is happening to Mentalism. Its not a 100% working method for a fee choice! -_-

Oh i see. You mind tell me more about the effect? Thks. :rolleyes:

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I've PMed you.

Bro, mind if you PM me as well.. Thanks! ;)

cant seem to do it.

No such member response...

how do u spell your nick?

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At the bottom of all the posts, there is a "PM" icon. Just click on it and you'll be able to send PM.

ah...thanks :)

there is one way I just remembered on how to gain spectators number or letter, its called cold reading or speech reading ^_^

hi..Do you mind describe the effect to me or you can PM me also can. Thks.

err...I don't think cold reading can be used for that kinda effect we're talking about.

speech reading? whats that?

Have you found the PM icon yet? :P
Im still waiting for the PM.. :lol: