Yesterday i bought Kundalini Rising, didnt it was the same technique that i know before.

Question, do you think i should sell away my rising card deck and replace by kundalini?
(Problem --> Does not look better than Rising Card)
(Strength --> Examinable)

Or should i keep the rising card deck, and sell away my Kundalini rising?
(Problem --> No examinable)
(Strength --> look better than Kundalini Rising)
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Guyz and girls, Just want to hear your views. :)

Yes, please sell ur rising card deck....






Because I wanted to buy it. (provided its in good con.) hahaha :lol:

What kind of answer is that?

You are not even helping the person asking, and only for your own benefit.

Okie, back to the topic.

Hmm, i personally like things that are examinable, it always feel weird when you do a rising deck trick to someone and u have to keep the deck so that no one will check it.

Think about it this way, if you wan to do rising card as the first/last trick in a routine, then the kundalini Rising will be good, cause after that u can show the deck is okie, and proceed on.

If you are going to do Rising card in the middle of the whole thing, then rising card will be good, because u can do deck switch easily during each change of trick.

Both got their strength, so it depends on what kind of event will be perfer it to be.

If it is a walk about, then do something that it looks impromtu. So that u can run away it even when someone snatch the deck from you.

Thats it.

Larry
P.S Please give constructive idea when someone ask a favor, think about the person, not about yourself.

chill dude, it was meant to give some laughing. :unsure:

i agree with larry. i would rather examinability if the change in the effect is not much.

May i ask, what is the Kundalini Rising? Issit a technique u can use to make a card rise, or issit a gimmick?

Thx in advance

It is super cool. no gimmicks , no IT's. Can be done in spectator's hand. But it is hard. Diffucult to master. :)

May i know if this is the same one sold in the magic castle's teach in's?

The Penguin webby says this uses gimmicks tho?

It is a gimmick, that allows you to hook on instantly, right in front of the spectator's nose. Well, can compare to Hele-card, can be borrowed deck/practically impromptu/examinable.

It is not difficult, AT ALL. Unless you're really really dumb.. :wacko: Hahaha. And dude, It requires a gimmick! Dont anyhow tell people wrong information lah, Hahaha. :P

I bought my Kundalini from Magic City (Branch of Castle), therefore, I'm not sure if they have it there. BUT it is NOT a teach-in! Its a package trick, with the gimmick inside, which I believe is able to last for a lifetime. The gimmick cannot be D.I.Y, so.. I dont think Castle can make that as a teach-in. The one you saw as a teach-in is probably the impromptu ones, which really requires skills.

Being able to do Kundalini on a BORROWED deck is what really makes the trick scary. I feel the effect is like 10 times more powerful then Rising Card Deck; it happens on spectators hand, borrowed deck, examinable, no sleights involved (the deck isnt even in your hands) etc. It is probably the BEST rising card for Street or Closeup Performances.

However, if you do more of Stage or Parlor, Rising Card is not really a bad choice though. Yes, you can put the deck in a wine glass and let the effect take place, and because it is Stage or Parlor, the examination of the deck can be avoided. BUT, Kundalini MIGHT be better! Imagine, pick a spectator from the crowd, bring him/her up to Stage, and let him/her do the trick; just like Street, and finishing the trick off by letting him/her keep the deck, which proves to the rest of the audiences that it really is a NORMAL deck. :)

Very very smart and ingenious; Kundalini.

o ok....

But is this the one taught at MC?

thaddeus please do not overstate the effect, it does require gimmick, and it is NOT difficult, haha...
Or are you looking at other form of rising?

Anyway, i tried it out this afternoon, it is not that easy too, because it does not rise when the gimmick is .................... cannot say it out, just like the rising card deck, if the pack consist of too much cards, it is difficult to rise.

Anyway i bought my at $28, just sharing the info. :rolleyes:

Hmm, it seems like a wonderful effect to do.

A few questions that i am curious about, will the gimmick hinder do to do other things, like moving around? Or i can do other things with the gimmick on?

Well, it looks like this effect have a good presentation area. I believe that for stage and palor, it is better to use jumbo cards and make it rise up in the wine glass.

But it will better if u can put the cards in a wine glass, cover the wine glass with another transparent box and make the card rise up inside. That will be one hell of effect.

Ever seen david copperfield's metal bending in the transparent box? Something similar.

hi, i own 4 sets of this given by 3 magicians friends of mine, i like it, i have tried it a few times. Rate it 3 Star. B)

Anyone of you know that this effect is by Jeff Mcbride? It is rather difficult to control the specs if you follow the actual instructions (as in getting the specs to hold the box high up and talk about the story).

Get the original, support the originator.

Thaddeus, seems like you don't have this, if not why say there's no gimmick involved?

Larry, the gimmick is easy to put on and off. You can't do it in a wine glass as its not the conventional method I think you're thinking off (Hey, I can read your mind).

But anyway, the effect is cool, no 1 will figure out (if you do it right as what magicdow say)

If you were to do a starter with this, the gimmick will not hinder you form performing your routine.
B)


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Question --> When i bought the trick, there is a card in it, it is like a mc bride card? do they sell the deck? Wandering where can i get it as it looks good for flourishes.

i know it was from him, Jeff Mcbride. B) the gimmick is easy to put on and off.

Yes, i agree with Magicdow, Get the original, support the originator. B)

I've always felt the patter in the booklet was long and rather uninteresting.


But, its a good gimmick. Juan Taramiz uses a similar concept for a totally different effect.

anyone knows where to find a clip on the kundalini rising?

Yup, its a wonderful effect to perform. With some variations to the handling, you can even spread the deck in your hands and allow the spectator to insert the card back in before placing it in the box for the rising. Bone did this once for me at Magic Exchange and i didn't even realised he was using the gimmick until he told me later :o .

From what i have seen about the gimmick, it cant be done offhands. Meaning, the deck cant be placed at a location by itself whereby the magician 'commands' the card to rise from a distance.

As for presentation, i doubt anyone actually follows the story about kundalini thats given in the booklet. Its just way too lengthy, unless the performer is using the rising to present a bizzare effect.

I have not seen the metal bending effect by Copperfield but i highly doubt the gimmick can bend items.

Cheers! B)

Thad, I think you got fooled my me? The one I used is not Kundalini Rising, hehe.

Anyway, keep both Rising Card Deck and Kundalini Rising. Perform the rising card deck to the spectators first, and get some reaction. If they suspect anything about the deck, ask them to get a deck and you will do the effect with their deck and with the cards in the box!

This is also a good way to fool hecklers or those who think that they knew everything.

Peace,
Rave

KK, thanks for your advice guyz, but i have a problem with my rising deck, the thing is that the gimmick is not able to hold on to the card already, so have you guyz face this problem before, how do you solve it? :)

Huron has a nice alternative to the Kundalini Rising. Very cool. B)

ok...sorry to dig such an old thread.

Where can I get replacements for the Kundalini Rising? Can I get it at any fabric stores or I must go get myself another packet of K.R?

hey...juz to ask ... any idea where to buy the gimmick ..hope no exposure...