I just saw this new product that is going to be launch pretty soon.

http://www.ellusionist.com/order/Cesaral-M...{CATEGORY%20ID}

I saw the demo clip and the effect looks very impactful and clean. But i saw that they highlighted that 'No special ring is need' This is kinda misleading. I saw the performer wearing a ring in the clip......Hmm....

Anyway, i thought that this trick will be quite cool if it allows me to perform the trick called Infusion which is also from ellusionist. I will get one if there are alot of good reviews about it and it is really undetectable.

So anyone going to pre-order it? Can i get any ellusionist stuff from the dealer here or do i have to buy directly from them?

Please don't get this effect.
It sucks to the core.
Worst effect in years.
Stay away from it.

'No special ring is need' : Nothing misleading about this.


Please don't get this.

It looks good in the vid. So is it because it is not practical? Please advise..

Seriously, i doubt it was this good,

A alternative gimmick is needed and some other additional thing is needed. Haha, you can imagine what is needed loh..

This is like a watered down version of the Cyril's coin through glass :lol:

No special ring is needed but well a RING is needed, I guess.

The handling is rather clean but there are some moves that are quite fishy that I don't really like, I feel the bonus is much nicer. :lol:

I wonder if this guy copied Cyril when he designed the effect. Hell, is it actually Cyril's?

Is this a blatant rip off? Or is it not.

Basically, if someone says it bad, can at least state the reason why? Don't just say its is bad or it sucks where you don't give any reason.. Reason like that sleights sucks or the gimmick sucks or its impractical etc.... :D

This is wat this thread is for right :D

woah, is the illusion really that bad,exohordon? Hope it is not an effect where you want as few ppl to know as possible. :P kidding.

So i guess it is one of those where i will buy and will not use it because of it's impraticability. i shall extinguish it from my wishlist.

Thanks for informative reply. I really thought it look so convincing in E.

Its not the same method used by Cyril

the FAQ in E is revealing some clues about it. but i suggest you not to buy it. its so expensive and i doubt it works with singapore coins.

Andy,

I wonder why will you make this statement.. :o Well.. do you assume that its not the same method or how sure are you that its the same method?
I guess you need to support your statement with something more to explaining.

Thanks,
Dexter

*I am not asking for exposure for sure.

Wah..the effect looks exactly as cyril's coin through glass effect. If the effect is practical in singapore , i might consider getting it. Very nice effect.... :rolleyes:

Its not the same method used by Cyril.

+1

Andy knows his stuff. He ain't inner circle for nothing.

err. i doubt have. but can use what E said. This is my lucky coin(the spanish coin) and hope the audience will believe you.

I wont say this effect sucks to the core.

It is creative. Get a wide collection of UK coins. you'll be able to do it if you love science.

So well.. that's the best i can go for all magic enthusiast.

It is a no no.. in getting it.

At least that's my point of view.

I will laugh out my jaws if you guys think that it is the same as what cyril have done, then try pulling a salt bottle out from the glass table then. :P

Anyway, Someone have unintentionally expose the method done, maybe the mod can do something about it.

If it could be done with signed coin, then its something worth. :)

Signing coins are for magicians. Do laymen care about signed coins?

They just freaking saw you made a coin pass through a glass table right in front of their eyes.

Why run when you aren't being chased?

I'm pretty sure its the same method (or at least similar concept). *shrugs* To each his own.

Thats Truth. My apologizes..

you can check out the preview at penguin magic too...

Well it could be the same method, i mean, do you use the same technique for all your rises in the ACR?

I'm sorry for the double post, but just to clarify i'm not sayin it IS the same method, just that there might be a possibility it is.

Since Andy has clarified it isnt. Then I'm convinced it isnt.

I'm sure it is >.< HAHAHAHa.

Alex, your first post contained EXACTLY what i wanted to say but didn't due to fear of exposure.

Hahaha, well, i dont think its exposure of any sort.

But if the moderaters feel otherwise, by all means delete my post.


Anyway, i think the effect looks pretty darn good.

Honestly I think the methods are the same.

I think the salt trick and the coin trick utilized different methods. Well, thats just my opinion.

And, Alex, your post ain't exposure. No worries.

Hah...looks like we are all splited 1/2 way down the middle over this one. B)
I'm quite convinced that this is NOT the same method as performed by Cyril.
But it sure is a possible alternative.

ANyways, not going off topic, I suspect with this one, you need to be able to do some intermediate coin sleights and probably quite a bit of practise to get it right.

i have to disagree with the intermediate sleights part..

cause i've watched the damn preview like a hundred times over and i'll got it down already.

the only thing left unknown is the gimmick itself.. i still cant figure out what the damn gimmick is.. im thinking raven, but ellusionist wont go to the extend of selling a gimmick as another.. rite?



as for the moves, there are no hard sleights involved.. quite basic... just need practice for smoothness..

so...

anyone got it yet? care to give a review?

Anyway regarding the ring and stuff, when Cyril was performing the
coin thru glass table trick he was also wearing a ring. I don't know
if that says anything.

how much it will cost in singapore any dealer have it ?

ive just gotten ceseral and it is not the same method used by cyril.the method is nothing much ingenious actually since its not a signed coin

there's this new demo video by E. think is a better and clearer one than the previous. sleight? i dont think is sleight , is like so damn fast and smooth. cannot be done using signed coin?

:off: laymen doesnt care about sign coins, as long they saw it pass right through the glass they freak out. ;)