Wonder if any of you face this problem when performing the slip force. When doing the slip in this force, there is usually sound produced by the cards brushing against each other. Any tips on how to prevent that sound? If you don't get what I mean you can pm me. I'll try to explain further. Thanks!

Never had this problem. A softer touch may be needed when handling the deck. Just gently cradle the deck and let the natural tackiness from your fingers drag the force card into place. If there's too much noise, you're probably "snapping" the card off then edge of the deck. Try to avoid that.

Another thing you can try is to slow down. The slip does not have to be rushed. I've seen many magicians execute this sleight like this: they riffle, then suddenly separate the packets with blinding speed. I believe that adds to spectator suspicion and noise.

The above, coupled with physical misdirection at the right moment and ambient noise should more than make up for and mask any little sound that the deck might make.

I'm using a different handling than the regular slip force; that may contribute to minimizing noise as well.

Have fun!

Thanks for the advice. Softened my grip a little haha so there's lesser noise now. When you try out the force in front of the mirror does it fool yourself? As in it really looks like u cut the deck normally?

Uh another question. Should the hand doing the cut be covering at least the top half of the slipped card? Would that not look quite suspicious?

For those who don't know, Nique Tan is considered by many as one of the best professional card magicians in Singapore and has a reputation of card sleights mastery.

So you are getting some excellent tips there. B)

WoW! :blink: serious? No wonder he sounded so professional :D Been practising my sleights and stuffs the whole morning since I got the Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic haha. Only my DL seems to work. The rest seems to have a mind of their own. Working only when they feel like it <_<

Wow Aloy, thanks for your kind words. On a personal note, I don't consider myself the best. I can only safely say I believe I handle my work competently - after all, we owe that much to magic and audiences have every right to deserve much better.

Back on topic though. On a visual level the slip force (or at least the handling I think you're using) should look pretty ok. I won't be describing it in much detail, PM me if necessary.

You're at the point when they've just called stop. Rotate BOTH hands to the right (right hand turning palm up, left hand turning palm down) as the sleight occurs and gesture to the face card on the right packet with the usual "we won't take this because we've seen it..." gambit to cover the actual slip. Rotate both hands back to the left and once the left hand has turned palm up again, you're done and offer the "selection" to the spectator.

You do not need to provide much more cover; your right hand is already holding the upper packet in biddle grip. This is sufficient.

Hope that helps.

No cencorship? Damn...

are there any videos which demonstrates slip force? or issit only in the book?

If any of you guys up there feel that my posts can actually be understood by a layperson who has got no prior knowledge about lingo and technique, then please feel free to edit them or to tell me off - directly.

Mod edit:

Not funny. Verbal warning this time. But not again ok?

Com'on mate. I think that's as much information as anyone can give you online already. Don't just wait to be fed. This is a community, not a school. Work on it and come back if you have more problems ok?

On exposure, there was none as far as I can see. I thought the moves described tip toed around the sleight without actually revealing it, but gave good description for the help asked. Not ok meh?

Which was my intention. I phrased my contributions in a way that could not possibly be easily comprehended by anyone without any knowledge of magic methods (and even by some of us here apparently). I am active on other magic forums and this is the way we all post. If the rules here tend to be more stringent I will respect them and shall attempt to be more selective on what I post.

Cheers... :)

Um... Nique? Seeing that you replied so defensively, it seems as though I offended you in the previous post. That, however, is not my intent, and I'm sorry if you're offended.

Peace.

Hey BuaYa - none taken! :)

Just want to play nice here. I am all for keeping the integrity of magic whilst sharing. I think it's cool that whilst reading posts, those who deserve to understand will get it, while those who don't will not; and have to do more work by themselves before they understand. So in a way we protect ourselves like that.

I post carefully and with select choice of language, coded enough for us to understand and yet ambiguous enough so that secret seekers are left out of the game.

I am happy to be able to contribute here.

ughh i realised i already watched the slip force in a video already... didnt take note of the name :P my bad

Ahhh yes! Thanks Nique! Practised it using the turning both hands around method to misdirect and to cover the move. Then tried it on my bro and one of my friend. Used a different patter though. But hey! It worked!! Thanks so much! :D

Good to know you're starting to see results with this. All the best in your learning... Do keep me updated if anymore problems come up.

yea..

rotation...

One thing I noticed...
Beginners in card magic tend to go suddenly quiet when performing moves...

So an advice, keep talking..

One thing I always like to talk about is the angels riding on bicycles..
so random and so intriguing...

So with the misdirection and your constant chattering, it helps..

sometimes, it helps to have big bunch of keys in your pockets.
So when u do moves that have noises, move from the left side of your audience to their right side, at the same time, shaking those keys..

:off: Didn't realise what the pictures at the back of the Bicycle decks were until you pointed it out haha. :lol:

Keep talking huh. I'll keep that in mind. Not as easy for me as I'm not exactly fluent in spoken English. Probably have to come up with some Singlish patter of my own and crap my way through the trick :)

Oh anyway. Would it help if I move my right hand further away when gesturing to it after the "cut"? Maybe could serve as a little misdirection to make the move even harder to spot. What do you all think?

rotate to show face of both piles, turning both wrists 180 degrees towards the right , assuming if u are right hander and doing mechanic script on left hand.

use forefinger of left hand holding bottom pile to point to the face of the lifted pile as misdirection.

usually at that point, I'd say that they cannot choose that card, coz it has been seen by me... so they have the choose the face down card of the bottom pile [ left hand pile top card]...

Yupz generally that was wat Nique said too. What I meant was to hold the faced up deck even further away to serve as even more misdirection if that was the part that you were replying to. :D

You know something? I have always hated the Slip Force because you had to say that annoying line "You stopped here..we won't use this card because we've already seen it..we'll use this one instead". Personally, I have stopped using the Slip Force because it just doesn't make sense to me. And I would recommend the same to you. I do however use it as a control for a selected card to go to the top of he deck in my routines and have befuddled the wise ones many times with this ruse. Good luck.