Title: Impromtu Card Trick
Description: what will you do?
jonatha - April 4, 2006 03:03 PM (GMT)
if you were playing with a deck of cards and suddenly someone ask you to show him/her something, what will you do?
rknights - April 4, 2006 03:38 PM (GMT)
start off with a f***e and try to read his mind.. and proceed on from there.. :lol:
Please use the * for certain terms in magic
M.A.D. - April 5, 2006 03:38 AM (GMT)
i will do the new magic trick i learn the Number "Five" card. B)
LarryDK - April 5, 2006 10:26 AM (GMT)
Show them that u can eat a card, they wont believe u, and u really eat one. That will freak them out.
Juz Joking, impromtu.. card somemore, Haha!! Juz take out ur name card, say that its a name card, but of course, without names, then u show that ur hand is the printing machine for ur magic shows, then u print ur name onto the card and give them the name card, there u got another contact..
wolfieci - April 5, 2006 02:52 PM (GMT)
Just setup a card trick right then and there while I patter, or just do my ambitious card routine for them.
Joe112 - April 6, 2006 08:44 AM (GMT)
Biddle Trick is good. Easy and fast. I also use this trick where I use 2 aces to "capture" the selected card. That trick lasts around 30 seconds. Love it. :D
wolfieci - April 6, 2006 12:17 PM (GMT)
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| I also use this trick where I use 2 aces to "capture" the selected card. |
I can't remember, but didn't David Blaine do this trick?
bryanne - April 6, 2006 12:58 PM (GMT)
Ambitious Card Routine is probably the most well known impromtu card tricks.2 Card Monte might be good but depends on your spectator,if they are not patient then do other tricks if not it would be a blast! Great reactions.
jonatha - April 6, 2006 03:33 PM (GMT)
i would perform biddle trick taught in Ellusionist Inside Magic.
[A]lex - April 6, 2006 09:16 PM (GMT)
i would perform hotshot or maybe emsley count
Magicdow - April 7, 2006 12:59 AM (GMT)
Hot shot and Emsley count is not a trick.
jonatha - April 7, 2006 07:32 AM (GMT)
exohordon - April 7, 2006 07:41 AM (GMT)
Hot shot is not a sleight.
wolfieci - April 7, 2006 09:22 AM (GMT)
Hot shot cut is the sleight of hand created by Daryl. Hotshot, I believe is the name of the routine that goes with it or rather utilizes the hotshot cut.
Andy - April 7, 2006 09:32 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (wolfieci @ Apr 7 2006, 05:22 PM) |
| Hot shot cut is the sleight of hand created by Daryl. Hotshot, I believe is the name of the routine that goes with it or rather utilizes the hotshot cut. |
erhmm, daryl actually mentioned that it was a flourishy way to do a cut in his encylopedia of card sleights vol 8 and did not refer to it as a sleight
It is also taught in Xtreme Beginners by him as a flourish ^_^
anyway, i guess thats enough for my :off:
Magicdow - April 7, 2006 09:35 AM (GMT)
Would you consider a cut as sleight of hand?
wolfieci - April 7, 2006 03:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Magicdow @ Apr 7 2006, 05:35 PM) |
| Would you consider a cut as sleight of hand? |
You are both right. I didn't mean sleight of hand. Flourish is the word I was looking for. Sorry for that. @_@
Art_Of_Magic - April 7, 2006 03:54 PM (GMT)
I will do a trick that not only involve card but also "mentalism". You will get the spectator to involve the trick physically, visually and disturb them mentally. They won't even ask you to do it again..
Forgot the name given for this trick but its the 1 where you glimpse a card cut it into the deck and controlling it with f***** break and asking them to say stop at a card which eventually you are controlling..
Simply great for an impromptu magic.
My 2cents worth of knowledge.
jonatha - April 7, 2006 04:54 PM (GMT)
Emsley count is a sleight of hand right?
Ace - April 9, 2006 11:16 AM (GMT)
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Ya.. Emsley count is a sleight of hand... it sure don't look like a flourish to me...
I'll usually do a here then there followed by a biddle trick or ACR...
After a few pieces of card transpo i'll add in some mind reading card tricks to end the routine... ^_^
noob_magicx - April 10, 2006 10:53 AM (GMT)
maybe an ACR would be good? dan could lead to biddle or 2CM.. one of the best reactions i've got.. and not forgetting some mind reading too!! even though im not confident yet, but some T&R effects would be good too..
some thoughts of mine.. ^_^
zib - April 10, 2006 01:33 PM (GMT)
hmm.. sometimes i just blank out when people ask me to show them something, so i just work from there.
like... improvise something out. it may end up really well, or really lame. ^_^
or if i manage to calm down (lol) i'll just do the ACR.
Ace - April 12, 2006 10:10 AM (GMT)
Blank out? Haha that's one of my problems in my early days... Sometimes I just don't know what to perform then I will end up just doing card flourish for 1 minute..... The audience will just stare at my hands waiting for me to decide on on trick..... NOT good.... -_-
Hence one fine day i just sit down and list down all my tricks and started to group them into routines.... Now I have a few set of fixed routines... in this case you won't be blank out when people ask you to perform... And there won't be awkward pauses between your tricks because you know which trick you are going to perform next!
It's good for you to improvise trick and think of new routines. You can create your own stuff and be unique.... :)
However.... don't do it in the middle of a performance.... Like what you say it may end up lame.... Do all your homework at home and performed it once you really feel comfortable about it! ^_^
LarryDK - April 12, 2006 11:14 AM (GMT)
Going off topic loh...
Keep to the subject frenz.
There is alot of impromtu magic out there, but anyone ever tried doing the jumping toothpicks?
Actuallys its fun to do, and juz use 2 toothpicks and its cool..
blueheaven - April 12, 2006 11:22 AM (GMT)
I think mindbender would be a nice cool trick to do. Very impromptu IMO
Ace - April 12, 2006 12:39 PM (GMT)
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| There is alot of impromtu magic out there, but anyone ever tried doing the jumping toothpicks? |
This topic is about impromtu card trick.... isn't this off topic as well? haha
Ok i'll start with a Here Then There, Biddle trick....then i'll go into 2 card monte.....then used the 2 Aces in 2 card monte to do Card in Aces...Then finish off with an ACR.... If there are girls I'll finish up with a routine that would get me the numbers haha :P
LarryDK - April 13, 2006 03:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 12 2006, 08:39 PM) |
This topic is about impromtu card trick.... isn't this off topic as well? haha
Ok i'll start with a Here Then There, Biddle trick....then i'll go into 2 card monte.....then used the 2 Aces in 2 card monte to do Card in Aces...Then finish off with an ACR.... If there are girls I'll finish up with a routine that would get me the numbers haha :P |
No.. Unless you mean the card thing.
Jumping toothpick dun need setup. It is an impromtu effect.
:) Here then there need setup in the deck. Yes it can be consider impromtu if you can setup while doing the performance.
Hope you get what it means by impromtu.
Kazekage - April 13, 2006 03:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (LarryDK @ Apr 12 2006, 07:14 PM) |
Anyone ever tried doing the jumping toothpicks?
Actuallys its fun to do, and juz use 2 toothpicks and its cool.. |
The jumping toothpicks?
Haha! I know that 1... I used to do it with matchsticks though :lol:
Ace - April 13, 2006 04:36 PM (GMT)
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| Here then there need setup in the deck. Yes it can be consider impromtu if you can setup while doing the performance. |
I always have my deck set to do the trick hence its quite impromtu to me...
Jaspas - April 14, 2006 01:46 AM (GMT)
Thats as good as saying.
I carry a raven with me all the time therefore the raven is an impromptu effect.
Or.
I've got an appearing cane on me all the time therefore appearing a cane is an impromptu effect.
>.>
LarryDK - April 14, 2006 12:08 PM (GMT)
Haha!! That was rough.. ROAR!!
Anyway, impromtu means: Borrowed items, or anything off the street.
Ace - April 14, 2006 01:46 PM (GMT)
I am NOT saying that it is an impromptu effect, just saying that i can perform it whenever you ask me to, thats why it is impromptu to Me
There is a difference between an impromptu effect and if the effect is impromptu to me
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| I carry a raven with me all the time therefore the raven is an impromptu effect. |
Anyway raven can be a impromptu effect as well! You can just borrow something and make it vanish. Why isn't it impromptu? It's just that it is not a impromtu TRICK But to the audience the EFFECT can be seen as impromptu if the magician had the raven with him all the time
to make things simple
Impromptu means
1 : made, done, or formed on or as if on the spur of the moment
If i can perform the trick on the spur of the moment . To ME thats impromptu
The defination of impromptu trick is like what LarryDK said perform with borrowed items or off the street
Hence "To ME impromptu" does not equal "Impromptu effect"
Got it? Try a Roar that makes sense next time k or it'll only hurt people's ears :)
Jaspas - April 14, 2006 04:57 PM (GMT)
Ah ha. You're very convincing :rolleyes:
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Impromptu means 1 : made, done, or formed on or as if on the spur of the moment |
Firstly, I'm not going to comment on why there is a 1 at the beginning of the statement. Perhaps it is due to bad planning of your post. Perhaps you're already doing your best. Who knows.
Next, you state that an impromptu effect is one that is 'made, done, or performed on or as if on the spur of the moment.' But also say that you agree with LarryDK that an impromptu is an effect done with 'borrowed items, or anything of the streets.' To top it off, you add that 'I always have my deck set to do the trick hence its quite impromtu to me...'
To summarize what you've claimed, is that your set up deck, which is borrowed, or something of the streets, is used to perform Here then There as if on the spur of the moment.
I could just imagine it happening...
You go up to a random person, and say 'Sir could I borrow a pack of cards?'
He goes, 'Sure you may, random man #472895!'
He produces a pack of black tiger cards held within a Joe Proper card guard and hands it to you from within his bag.
You pick up the deck, and, on the spur of the moment, decide to do Here then There.
Of course, the man who lent you the deck, ALREADY KNEW that you wanted to do the effect and had set it up for you before hand.
You perform the effect and he is amazed. Such an amazing impromptu effect.
Right.
Lastly, I would like to point out, that this...
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| Anyway raven can be a impromptu effect as well! You can just borrow something and make it vanish. Why isn't it impromptu? It's just that it is not a impromtu TRICK But to the audience the EFFECT can be seen as impromptu if the magician had the raven with him all the time |
Is just dumb. If that is the case, every single effect, other than green screen magic, is impromptu. You could vanish the statue of liberty impromptu, all you need is to have helicopters, a gigantic screen, TV crew, live broadcasting rights, and the whole set up with you all the time. :g:
Please. Post only if you know what you're talking about and stop changeing stands once you make one.
Just so that I'm on topic.
If someone came up to me and I had to do an impromptu effect, it would be either Finger Fantasies, the Balducci Levitation. In the case that I have a pack of cards, since this IS, after all the cards section of SMC, I'd perform Card to Pocket.
neo23 - April 14, 2006 05:27 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 14 2006, 09:46 PM) |
| Anyway raven can be a impromptu effect as well! |
huh?
on topic: Here there and then needs set-up. thus not impromptu. i'll rather you go along with the oh-so-trendy ACR.
Aloy - April 14, 2006 06:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 14 2006, 09:46 PM) |
I am NOT saying that it is an impromptu effect, just saying that i can perform it whenever you ask me to, thats why it is impromptu to Me
Hence "To ME impromptu" does not equal "Impromptu effect"
Got it? Try a Roar that makes sense next time k or it'll only hurt people's ears :) |
Easy does it Ace :)
Larry and Jaspas wasn't trying to put you down :) They are geniunely pointing out a misunderstanding of concept that you might have.
By definition, impromptu card magic means effects you can do on the spot with a deck of cards someone just handed you. If you say you have some small items that you carry around in your wallet (e.g. a mini prediction card) MAYBE that still can be considered impromptu. But anything that requires set up would not be considered :)
you might give the IMPRESSION to the AUDIENCE that it is impromptu, but that is besides the matter, they are talking about set up free effects :)
[LV] - April 14, 2006 06:36 PM (GMT)
i do classic pass, enough le.
if ask to do again, switch to E.Colour.C.
still not convicing and wan to see again, i will use Shape.S.
STILL NOT CONVICING... i will go back first wan to do classic pass..
The whole idea is not let em catch the "attacking" move.
Ace - April 15, 2006 12:38 AM (GMT)
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| Larry and Jaspas wasn't trying to put you down They are geniunely pointing out a misunderstanding of concept that you might have. |
I understand that :) and i understand the concept of impromptu trick
Hence the post to prevent somebody from thinking that Here Then There is an impromptu trick. NO Here Then There is not impromptu. Since when did i put that in my mouth? Its just that i can do it anytime anyone ask me to perform.
Raven is NOT an impromptu trick. Just that the Effect can be seen as impromptu to the layman.
Impromptu Effect does NOT necessary mean Impromtu Trick!There is a difference between both
And i thought things like "wtf" are not allowed? Both in terms of Improper English rule and Profanity rule <_<
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| Firstly, I'm not going to comment on why there is a 1 at the beginning of the statement. Perhaps it is due to bad planning of your post. Perhaps you're already doing your best. Who knows. |
You said you are not going to comment and yet you continue to comment on it. Excellent planning of post
The 1 is to show that this is only one of the meaning of impromptu. If you go through the dictionary there will be more so i just pick the one which is more relavent to the discussion
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| Next, you state that an impromptu effect is one that is 'made, done, or performed on or as if on the spur of the moment. |
*Sigh* That's why i put in 2 different definition of impromptu and impromptu effect
I already try my very best to make it simple to understand
maybe its still too complicated for you but i just can't think of any other way of explaining the difference :(
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| You go up to a random person, and say 'Sir could I borrow a pack of cards?' |
First of all how did you know the random person have a deck of cards with him? Is he also a magician?
And yes i could perform Here Then There with a borrowed deck. I just did that last month on some Ginnese(don't know if its the correct spelling) celebration event! Tada!
I performed the effect and it is not as nonsensical as your example! Only the last part is correct! The crowd is amazed by the Effect which is impromptu in their eyes
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| Of course, the man who lent you the deck, ALREADY KNEW that you wanted to do the effect and had set it up for you before hand. |
You don't need the audience to set up for you. It is not necessary and it does'nt make sense ... at least to me. Like what i said earlier i can set up the deck right in front of them ^_^
What i actually mean is that if anyone ask me "Hey can you show us something?" at the spur of the moment, I can do it cause i got the set-up with me all the time
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| Is just dumb. If that is the case, every single effect, other than green screen magic, is impromptu. You could vanish the statue of liberty impromptu, all you need is to have helicopters, a gigantic screen, TV crew, live broadcasting rights, and the whole set up with you all the time. |
I think no matter how ignorant the audience is they can still tell that the statue trick is not impromptu
How can you put the Liberty Trick and Raven together? :(
Raven could be perform on the street hence it gave the audience the impression that the effect is impromptu. The Trick itself needs set up and is NOT impromptu
Liberty Trick needs a stage and like what you say Choppers and stuff
This surely don't give the audience the impression that its a impromptu effect. You can't borrow a Chopper off the street but you can borrow a coin
Got it? :)
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| Please. Post only if you know what you're talking about and stop changeing stands once you make one. |
I am not changing my stand here. I made it and i will keep to it.
I know what i'm talking about but you don't *sigh*
I think thats why there is this misunderstanding -_-
Last but not least this post is nothing personal. Jaspas seems to be quite upset and emotional in the last post. I'm just trying to clarify the doubts of some people Not to put you down
Hope you can understand thanks! :)
Aloy - April 15, 2006 01:05 AM (GMT)
Alright alright...chill chill....let's not get ruffled over definitions...
Moving right along...
LarryDK - April 15, 2006 11:35 AM (GMT)
Bang Bang Bang!!! Ah yA!!! Feel the pain in my ass man.
Anyway, let Begone be Begone, Amen...
By the way, Ace, you ever thought of doing a signed card transport? Not just his card, but also your card. Once i tried, but it seems very not practical.
Who knows..
jonatha - April 16, 2006 08:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jonatha @ Apr 4 2006, 11:03 PM) |
| if you were playing with a deck of cards and suddenly someone ask you to show him/her something, what will you do? |
well read the first post... i defind impromtu le...