3 hours after Stigmata is released...

I got the video!! (and the DVD, hoping that it'll ship with the black Ghost card. Haha.)

Guess what.. I think I just bought one of the most powerful impromtu effect ever. Trust me, it is. Anytime, anywhere. Uses are just up to your imagination.

The teaching is good. WH actually breaks down stuff good and uses good techniques prior to the actual "Stigmata" effect. This is cool even for beginners to do. Strong effect, minimal hassle. Beginners will also get to learn some powerful utility moves and methods from this video. It is really worth it for starters in magic.

I can't say anymore. This beats all the anytime, anywhere effects I have seen yet. It is a real cool thing to do when you are caught with nothing on you.

For those who know the version Banachek does, this is the same. Only that the contexts and methods applied is very different. WH really deserves a dime for this effect.

Support WH's idea. Get Stigmata.

PS. This is a review. Ellusionist pays me nothing to post here...

So, did you feel this way too when you saw Banachek's version in PSI Vol 2? If not why?

Not trying to be offensive to E followers, but just curious as I believe that Banachek's method can be used in many ways and not only limited to cards alone.

If Wayne's version is only differing in the revelation, then to me, thats really not worth USD$29 and definitely not the BEST impromptu effect ever.

PS: I like Sinful ^_^

I thought the thread titled "Review on Stigmata" not "Stigmata: Houchin vs Banachek"

Anyway both (Banachek, W:H) effects are great....

but for those who do not have the Banachek version, well

this version from W:H covers 3 routines
1. the card version
the spec picks a card, put into the deck and shuffles it with the performer back turn. next the stigmata effect surface on the performer's wrist

2. a person's initials version
the spec write a person name on a business card, the spec project the initials of that person in his mind and thus the stigmata effect again..

3. thought of a number version
the spec just think of a number and does not tell anyone about it. again the stigmata effect come into play.

W:H teaches all 3 routines really well and also as mention in the previous review, there are a couple of sleights that are useful. There are also plenty of street performances on this effect.

The instant download video span somewhere between the 60min to 68min mark. (The dvd would be longer course there are banachek interviews and uncut segments)

I would not recommed skeptics, anti-E or owners of the PSI vol 2 to buy this.

but the others do try picking it up. It is a very good impromptu effect. Recommended! Sinful was good...Stigmata is better.

maybe i will drop a review again on the dvd when i get my copy.

you haven't gotten your product and you wrote a review.. that's new. :lol:

Hey dude, if you dun know, there is download available for Stigmata. So customers like bigbadwolf purchase both the download and the DVD.

I believe that reviews is about if something is good or bad. So is there something wrong when we compare 2 items that have a similar effect to see which is better? Maybe i am missing a new definition of review here :blink: and comparisons are more of a 'vs' scenario :wacko:

Anyway,

Number 3 sounds extremely interesting. Does it contain a 100 percent hit rate, or does it misses occasionaly? Nothing wrong with misses tho ^_^

I don think that there is anything personal here with regards to E or their stuff. I was just wondering if this DVD warrants my USD$29 and i believe your advise for PSI owners not to buy this to be really helpful here.

I know how banachek's version in the PSI vol 2 works, however I'm not sure if this is the advertising hype from E, but they claim that the red marks can "visually re-arrange" themselves. This is not taught in PSI.

If this has something to do with exposure I apologise but just trying to clear the doubt as to why you don't recommend psi owners to buy it.

hey there!

To Andy: Yes, I will tell all PSI owners not to get this. But if potential shoppers have money only for one DVD, I would recommend Stigmata.

The method in the PSI series is the same as Stigmata. Just the approach to the performing styles are different. Till you use it on the streets, you never know how great the reactions are. I do not want people who have the PSI series to watse their money on something so similar, but rather whichever way you got the method from, remember, the possibilities of this principle is limitless.

Those who truly appreciate the things they buy will churn up all kinds of ways to utilise what they have bought. And by the way, I don't own the PSI series.

I'm pretty sure that the PSI series have a different target audience than Stigmata. I just happen to fall in the latter.

Thanks for the info. Really appreciate this forthcoming advice on the DVD. ^_^

man, i have doubt myself if i should i get the stigmata considering that i have banachek's PSI series.

if only the review video shows what exactly is on his hand maybe we could have an insight of what WH really does.

i agree. the demo video doesn't show enough of the effect. Frankly speaking it does not look obvious on the camera. but doing it "live" you can really tell that the red grip mark turns into the selected number, initial, shape whatever.

lol thanks for the opinion

that was one large pail of cold water poured towards this effect.

thanks a lot :rolleyes:

Just my opinion. If yuo really like it, i can't stop you.

Anyway, Stigmata sells the effect as how you make the mentalism gathered information appear on your arm. This will seem impossible as long as you carry the right attitude and think of creative ways, which i believe WH has done. But i don't know.

:ph43r:

nyx.. I would not say that the Stigmata effect will not fool anyone.
I have the Banachek version and i have performed it on quite a number of people.

The reactions i got was... EEEEEEEeK!!
Some of them screamed, some watched me wide-eyed, some with the usual how did you do that?!?!

and i believe its the premise you do the magic in..

I haven got WH version yet.. plan to get it sometime.
Although the effect is similar, the grounds that you present on is different. and its also always to know more stuff.

and i think the red marks travelling to form the stigmata is quite corny...

...squeeze your own arm....................
hard

I didn't say it won't fool anyone. I just don't have confidence in it with my childhood past. It's a personal problem/barrier.

childhood past lol..

I still think no harm trying.

people like me with a dark skin tone never try either, well i did not buy this, but how ever those with a dark skin tone can do it ontheir thigh , you can see quite clearly.

Dark Skin tone also can do.

I believe the red marks will appear quite prominantly if you really..
feel the pain

:D

I do stigmata quite often. I have dark skin.

Those with dark skin tone will find that stigmata may not be entirely effective for you. Its difficult to see the blood forming.

hmm actually not really.

the dvd does teach a method on how to appear on darker skin tones.

i'm not 100% sure...i'm still waiting for my dvd.

maybe llamalamer wanna confirm if this method really does exist in the dvd?

yeah llamalamer? ^_^

hope i wont be exposing anything.

when i do stigmata, after i do the move, when the red marks appear, theres a white border around the marking which kinda gives the effect away. Is there a way of eliminating this?

uhh do the move slowly? i dont get that problem much... once the mark appears and the specs see it.. they start cursing and they dont notice the white border anyway..

its really how well u present the effect..

u can ask them to touch it too.. helps sell the effect..

rub it away...

It doesn't work by rubbing away. You must wait for a longer time. Then only the red marks will remain. The white mark should not stay

Eh... Juz asking.

Do ppl look at your and say... "All you're doing is juz..."

Coz i once got a dvd with a relatively simple concept and that happened quite abit...

Hey dude, its not with how simple the concept can be, its how u present it. If you dun believe in it urself, you cant expect the person u doing to to believe in it, because your eyes tell them that its not a magic.

As for this effect, I feel that since its near to impromtu, there is a certain requirement to make this effect a big run.

An impromtu effect is something that you can pull off anywhere right? So "tell" them that its nothing, and then, its something.

Ya, i beating around the bushes. But it realy beat downs to the confidence to yourself doing this effect, or other impromtu effects, with or without cards.

After i bought this effect, everyone that i performed to are amazed with it. It is quite hard to fail halfway within the trick. I think this is a good buy.

I would say that effects by Wayne Houchin are good. So far I've got both his DVDs, one that is Criss Angel's Mastermind Coin Through Soda and the other, Stigmata. I would say it's totally worth getting hehe.
I like his non-gimmicked yet powerful effects and I hope he will produce more of such DVDs ^_^

Agreed with LarryDK... this trick needs good presentation.

When the marks are appearing, look at the marks together with the audience. Try to make it as though you are trying to figure out what the markings means.

" It looks like a triangle... does it mean anything to you? No? Wait... I think i got it! its an Ace right?" The crowd would flipped. Pause for a moment before you gently touch his or her head. "Ace of Heart."

Although the second step of stigmata is the one that make it works, do not neglect the first step. The first step should make them believe that there is no way in hell you know that piece of information, be it a card or a name.
For me instead of using the method in the DVD i used BTC system instead. Its more convincing i think.

I would say its a very powerful effect as it plays a part in the emotional aspect of the spectator. The effect requires no gimmicks, no skill. You just have to take note of your performance. Its really simply to do and the results you get is great. Those of you who are interested in mentalism tricks, this one is for you.

Stigmata is good. Its very straight forward and visual. There is no pre-setup. You can just walk up to any strangers and do it straight away. The "secret" is done somewhere in between the trick that nobody spots. Its very good. 9/10!

i say 10/10
my first dvd...
wayne houchin explans extreamly clearly and the effect is simply the best to me.. shock the life of frens

Stigmata is a very good trick to perform on the street. It leave a very strong effect on the audiences,it is a very good way to get people respect,when people respect you as a magician you can get shows easily.

It very hard to spot and need very little pratice.

I give this DVD 10/10

I bought Stigmata the moment I saw the trailer.

I watched it and I think WH teaches rather well in the DVD. Talks aboutt the things to be mindful on certain aspect of presentation.

I think its as good as the sinful DVD.

But personally I prefer stigmata as has a more powerful effect especially on girls.

Sinful seems like its been exposed so much on TV that its not so shocking anymore.

Highly recommended. Go for it.