Hey I was just wondering does anyone do this locally?

Haven't seen local magicians steal watches...

And if you do please post it here and where u learned this stuff from... difficulty... amt. of practise etc.

O and has anyone got this dvd b4?

Encyclopedia PickPocketing- #1, DVD
http://www.world-of-magic.co.uk/magic.asp?id=652

If you wanna watch steals, I recommend you get this instead...

Watch Steal By Chappy Brazil And Charles Bach

I own the dvd but have not really got a sucessful steal yet, all I can say is it needs really plenty of practice to get the steps right and also guts. You would really need the guts....

Singaporeans....
Hmm...

Not really sure bout it, but some could be easily offended, who knows after that you might land yourself in the police station....
But unless you do the routine right, not start with the watch steal directly, i think nothing should be wrong...

Hmm... Anyone else into stealing watches?

Btw, Is that a good dvd?

And also, does anyone own On The Spot?

The watch steal they teach... what kind of watch issit for?

Hmm.. You could try to get "Watch Stealing By James Coat".

Watch Stealing would required some time to master, suggest that you do on unsuspecting friends.

Don't really want to try on Strangers as you might get into trouble.

I have OTS, but i doesn't watch it, but i did watch James Coat - Watch Stealing before.

He teaches alot of different methods, misdirection and some stuff to incoporate into your watch stealing effect.

Whatsmore he teaches the different methods for different watches out there.

Huron has built himself a mighty reputation doing watch steals....

And i heard that Jaspas also does it?

But I haven't seen this being executed in real life either....

I don't know man.. But it sure looks like it needs alot of experience with misdirection and of cos the skill of doing it.. Not to mention BALLS.. I'll love to see this performed life.. *claps to those who actually does this

If you have a excellent feel on watches then I would recommend you buying Watch Steal Dvd. Huron does steals? :blink:

Huron is the man you're looking for if you want to learn watch stealing, ring stealing, wallet stealing, whatever - just pickpocketing in general. His watch stealing is basically the reason I got into magic 3 years back. You'd also probably want to stay away from the James Coats video because it's pretty bad. Chappy Brazil's Watch steal video was awesome but I don't think they produce it in DVD format.

Chris

Actually they do produce it in DVD format with lotsa bonus contents in it cuz i got mine in DVD. :D

actually, i just did a watch steal at a party just now.. haha

use the method on mastering the art of pickpocketing. the one where u ask the spec to hold a card on each hand and u make them wave their hands left and right..

and poof its off.

gotta talk alot. gotta keep talking to them about the cards and ask them which card is here which card is there. haha..

Ya the Chappy Brasil's is quite good i had one and had done it before. Actually coming to all of those pickpocketing. The way to do it only comes like 20-30%. The misdirection and the things you say stands the most like 70-80%. So if you practice well you can do it.

Some thoughts on stealing watches:

• You're going to get caught, often when you start and occasionally when you've got it down
• You need a well-practiced effect during which you can steal the watch
• You're going to get caught, often when you start and occasionally when you've got it down
• Misdirection is the key
• You're going to get caught, often when you start and occasionally when you've got it down
• It helps if, during your well-practiced routine you work in an excuse to touch the spectator's wrist a few time
• and... You're going to get caught

Aloy sir, maybe that is because you don't realise how many watches you have lost already.

Ok whatever.

Mr mgshn

May I enquire as to why you will get caught with watch stealing? Why the pessimistic view about it?

While this is something you have to get caught to learn, it isn't impossible of course, and I've taken a few watches in my time. I used to do events with my dear buddy Prakash, and we would have little "challenges" as to who stole the first watch on a beer. Work on it if you like it.

The (almost rough) contact required with the spectator doesn't really suit me. Is there any way to get around this (because I think that watch stealing is very strong)?

That said, it's true.

You do need a certain type of character to pull this off. I hated doing watch steals as it didn't suit me as well - just did it for the fun of it at events with Prakash and Enrico (we need to have fun too at 4 to 5 hour gigs).

I only attempt a steal only when doing effects with their hands and I get to touch them. I also sometimes to it in steps - the first strap then come back for the buckle later. The steal doesn't have to be done fast or rough. I do it rather gently without any fast movements. And I don't get all the watches I go for.

You've gotta be careful though - going from a laid back performer to one who suddenly becomes touchy alerts spectators at some level. Guess you'd have to work a sequence like that into the routine.

A fair question... Every working pro I've asked has provided roughly the advice/comments I listed. In particular there is universal agreement that even the experienced watch stealer gets caught every now and then.

I suspect the reason you can expect to get caught is that this is something that cannot be effectively practiced on a knowing helper. Sure, a friend can put on a watch and stand there with their arm out while you fumble with their wrist. However, the mechanics of a watch steal is only one part and perhaps a very small one. Timing and misdirection are key and both are difficult to do on someone for the second time.

I was not trying to be pessimestic. However, and I should have spelled this out, you should be prepared to be caught and have an appropriate response ready.

Regards,

Bob

I've seen Daraketh doing watch steals.. It's pretty neat.. You guys can ask him for some tips..

I tried it once and was successful with it, but i didn't really like the idea, though its really a strong effect, I prefer stealing other things :P You can learn more about stealing by getting this DVD

Stealing The Show by Freeman

This dvd combines performance footage with specially filmed explanations to show you how to pick pockets close-up and on stage.

This is THE ultimate guide to pickpocketing.

pick pocketing or watch stealing.... i've practice for quite sometime now but it seems that singapore are just to cautious about their belongings....
a slight feel of touch make them react as if a tsunami had occur zzzzz.....any ways to get them totally unaware..??

If you really want to pull off watch steals you must feel comfortable touching people, and more importantly, your audience must feel comfortable with you touching them.

A watch steal cannot be done without proper physical misdirection, unless, you're willing to slit someone's watch and sell it at a pawn shop.

Ya, singapore style makes it harder to do this move, somemore, they might get offended and charge you. Everything go court!!!

Like Blindfold act, Archer kiss the audience, but i dun think anyone dares to try that in singapore, even me, hmm i been thinking whether i wan to do that!! Haha!

:off: Second, Nick have been trying to steal my things during the CCF, Kao, Keep Disturbing me!!!

get to kiss someone all in the name of magic. Hmm, sounds good.
Just joking. :ph43r:

I think Singapore is generally a conservative society by nature so I don't think alot of people will allow you just randomly going up to them and touching them (I typed that with a clear mind), let alone their wrists. Watch stealing or pickpocketing is risky business here.

To hell with freedom of speech. Why can't they give freedom of pickpocketing? :lol:

I feel watch stealing should only be done with people you really know well, or if by risk, make sure that they wouldn't rat you onto the police.

Btw, I have heard of other problems which may arise from watch stealing, pickpocketing and even borrowing items (like a ring) for magic.

One problem I have heard of is if the victim claims that the item returned to them is not theirs or not in the same condition as when it was taken. (eg. there's $50 missing from my wallet, or there's now a huge scratch on my watch, or that's not my ring - where is it?)

Partly because of this, I do not engage in "illegal"-type activities like watch stealing and pickpocketing, and if I do borrow items, they should be in full view at all times.

I don't do pickpocketing. But i very much agree with Gordon. Imagine if you 'steal' a Rolex and the owner claims that the watch has got a scratch or something...

Another problem i read somewhere. (not sure where, think is magiccafe) is sometimes people who pickpocket forget to return the item... :ph43r:

Imagine if its something valuable! :blink:

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