Title: Help The Coin Newbie
Description: Recommendations for Dvd and routines
muscleaxl - May 15, 2006 06:49 AM (GMT)
Hi guys, I am new here (and in magic too). So I would just like to ask some opinion here..
I have always been doing card tricks, felt a bit jaded, so decided to go into coins. I had some basic knowledge of it (eg, all the various P***ings, Bobo Switch, Shuttle Pass) but not very well versed yet.
So my questions are:
1. Is there any Dvd to recommend for my level? some friends had recommend David Roth's Expert Coin Magic, Michael Ammar's ETMMM and Jay Sankey's Revolutionary Coin Magic. So which is better for me?
2. Is there any good routines that don't require a table and no need shell? Most of the routines I saw require a table with smooth surface (eg Chink A Chink).
3. My fingers are quite thin and have gaps when I close make a plam. It poses a bit of problem for me when doing Tenkai, any tips on how to overcome it?
bigbadwolf - May 15, 2006 06:59 AM (GMT)
David Roth Expert Coin Magic and Michael Ammar's Introduction to Coin Magic might be the best out there for a new coin worker. Else consider BoBo Modern Coin Magic.
Thin fingers should not be a problem, the technique is the main stream though. e.g gripping the coin in a G******** pinch *urgh :angry:
I've yet to explore coin too...they are kinda difficult :(
Winder - May 15, 2006 07:28 AM (GMT)
I would recommend this 2 DVD which personally i think is good for beginners.
No harm to anyone.
DVD:
Coin Magic Made Easy By David Roth Volume 1 - 3
Introduction to Coin Magic By Michael Ammar
llamalamer - May 15, 2006 08:37 AM (GMT)
For beginners in coin magic, this video I would recommend on top of the ones listed here
Jay Sankey's Revolutionary coin magic. (Pardon his antics in the video. He does good.)
Lots of useful tips and ideas as well as "in the hands" routine to look at. "Mr. Clean's Coins Across" is one of them.
Other coin routines that does not use shells and tables can be found in "Totally Out of Control" By Chris Kenner. Strong, powerful routines in there. Intense (yes, really intense) practise needed though.
Well, if you have gaps between your fingers, don't worry. Because it won't be an issue if you keep your hands in motion (just a little will do), the p***ed coins can't be seen anyway.
Magicdow - May 15, 2006 09:23 AM (GMT)
I wouldn't really recommend Sankey's Revolutionary coin magic (its a very good dvd) to beginners. Some of the stuff are not really basic. Lots of Tenkai backclip.
Kenner's book is even tougher, some routines requires you to classic p*** 2 and finger p*** 1 and at the same time do a spellbound change. Some nice routines in this book too.
I'd go with Roth's material for beginners.
deadsouL - May 16, 2006 08:25 AM (GMT)
Hi there muscleaxl,
Firstly, I think you should probably want to know that coin magic is technically more difficult to grasp (pardon the pun ^_^ ) than card magic, so if you decided to go into coins because you got bored of cards (or jaded from cards), then perhaps coin magic might not be too suitable for you.
That being said, if you're considering branching out into other kinds of magic, then coin magic is an excellent way to go!
To answer your questions:
1) To all new coin workers, I always recommend Bobo's Modern Coin Magic first.
If you prefer video, like some of the fellow forumites have mentioned, David Roth is the way to go.
2) If you don't want the table-and-mat kind, perhaps go with Gregory Wilson or Jay Sankey because they have more 'loose' or 'on the street' material.
3) No problems with thin fingers in coin magic - it can be quite easily overcome with a little patience and practice. It's hard to explain the technique in the forum so come on down for our jam sessions and talk to some of the coin workers, I'm sure they'd be glad to share some tips with you!
deadsouL