Now, I actually don't expect this, but here goes.

I was performing for Singapore Street Festival, which it seems that its totally different from Singapore Art Festival. And no, i not performing magic, but i doing cheerleading for the closing of the singapore street festival.

So went to PS, and then preparing for the show, my group and me saw some magicians in action!! After seeing some effects by them, and talking to them, this is what i found out. They are from Republic Poly, and there is a MAGIC club there!! Wow, its cool to hear that. And they are involved to perform on the street in this event. Even though they are at one corner, jamming though. Anyway, asked them abt Singapore Art Festival, and they dun seem to be aware of it, :( So i told them that SMC people are performing in tanglin mall.

I did ask them whether they are inside SMC, but apparently, they are not, they have different views towards SMC, so i wont defend for SMC then, but one of them is from NP, called Marcus, so is it the one that we know in SMC? Haha!! Hopefully he will find this thread.

Thats abt it, really great to see magicians in action, and them performing. :) I wont mention the effects, unless they wan a review from me. :)

Yep, its me =)


I didn't even realised its you.

So you were the one who said its going to be hard? Lol, it would be more easy if you'll come back to help =)


Anw, who performed at Tanglin Mall today?

I headed down to PS after departing from the group at Heartland mall.

O yea, Ning got into finals. Congrats. If she sees this post that is. Lol.

Now you know y i cant be at heartland mall, cause i got cheerleading to practise.

Oh ya, din ask you to perform for us, my frenz around me love magic, and they are surely not hecklers, cause they know the exculsive of magic art. But your frenz did some effects for us, which is nice but have to look out for the angles alot, he pull off the moves without much misdirections, which is not good, but its up to individual abt this.

Anyway, congrats to Ning first.

Its hard to form up a club, alot of things is needed to be done before the club can be formed.

Take a few example, the aim of the club, the rules for the club, member base for the club, etc.

Magic is an exclusive art, we cant deny that a club could be formed, but to hold the magician codes while holding the club, its not easy. Most ppl might find joining the club, we can learn magic, apparently, i doubt you will do that. But if no, the handful of ppl joining the club will be very little, and maintaining this str, its easy, but does it serve the purpose of a club? Abit confusing. Once the principal asked me abt forming a club, i told him its not easy, consider magic is an exclusive and rule binding art. Its not like dance, where u can teach freely. :)

It will be best, to form small group in NP, thats y we have a topic here stating school group, so that you ppl in the same school can get along and jam. Then it doesnt matter whether u have a physical club anot. :)

Out of curiousity, what are the "different views" about SMC that they have? B)

Curious because when you say you wouldn't defend SMC, you make it sound like they are "attacking" SMC? B) :unsure:

ALOY!! reply my PM ! lol.


Larry, i know its not easy to form a club. But forming the club is a way for us to get experience, and our first step is offering our service to NP solei, the community service CCA.

Member base, currently we have 4. We want to start a membership system, but regarding admission criteria, we're still considering.

Anyway, you could have asked, but I won't be that entertaining la. But next time we meet, we'll exchange some pointers. Next, all the guys there, I just met them only today. I only know 1 of the guys there.

As far as I know, that guy who performed to you is an ex classmate of Huron.
His name is matthew i think.


Anyway Larry, since the principal has apporached you before, the 4 of us will try to come up with a proposal, and we will ask you for advice. If it's workable, do talk to the principal for us.


Regards.

Sure, if the plan is good, i wont mind going ahead for the club setup.

I good frenz with the principal anyway.

Aloy, nothing really that great, juz that they feel SMC is not a good place, the example they gave me is, a soccer team, SMC is a soccer league. I wonder how that links? But it sure give me a rough idea of what he meant.

I don't understand...

How is SMC a soccer league?
Er...does that mean we are kelong? :unsure: :g:

Soccer league and soccer team? I also don't see the link.

Don't mind explain?

Anyway, we'll be discussing the details on our first meeting. So ya, we'll get it done asap and let you review it.


Thanks for the support!

Good night.

Thats y.

If i dun mistaken, it means, magic is like soccer, and SMC is like a league.

Which kind of means, there is alot of people inside fighting for juicy stuffs.

Not really fighting, but like, the whole circle might be too big for them, and its not upgrading them enough.

Thats what i think. :)

Wow.
So diva ah?

Oh well.....
If anybody thinks that they are too good to participate in a forum, or that they are too talented to meet other magicians, then there's nothing anyone can do.

Very often, I am disappointed that some pple are very quick to adopt a superiority-complex and declare that they are too good to meet people that's not good enough for them, and they are only interested in those who can help them.

So quickly they forgot that they themselve were once upon a time, or maybe not too long ago, a beginner and a newbie too.
So easily they forgot, that while they were a noob starting out, they have received help, usually freely, from others who did not think it was beneath themselves to help out a beginner.
So conveniently they forgot, that without these help, they couldn't have developed themselves and would possibly have remained a noob.

Don't mind if I sound a little harsh, but I think this is just being selfish.
No, this doesn't mean spoon-feeding the newbies and beginners. Those around long enough will know that we have gained a reputation as being strict and sometimes a little unforgiving for those who wants to hop along for a free lunch.
But this is about selfish people who rather see misguided beginners continue their mistakes because they think they are too good to be seen around beginners.

And frankly, I don't think SMC has a place for those with such an attitude. They can go hide in their caves and be diva and atas by themselves.
I'd hate to see this kind of bad attitdue spread.


P.S.
Erm, to the Republic Poly pple, the above is just a sweeping statement. :P

I obviously do not believe that everyone from Republic Poly is like that. :D
In fact, i am inclined to think that most of you are NOT like that, just that in all groups, there will always be a few stray radicals. :g:
Just like in SMC, we have some people in here who has that kind of attitude too.

But I would like to think people with such diva-ness is the minority. B)

Geez... I like what Larry had mentioned on the belonging to a physical magic club. It ain't necessary to setup a physical magic club in school when you can till jam around with your formed group.

To a certain extend, creating a magic club will sort of make magic not as exclusive anymore.

A good example can be found on Larry.

People in school reconise Larry as a magician(exclusively) and not a magician from a certain magic club. Thus, this also makes him very special in school.

It'll also be better to join our locally establised magic club IBM or SAM.

Just like how its better to have 1 SMC than to many SMC lookalike.

I think I sent the wrong message.

I didn't plan it to be an SMC lookalike. More like a name we call to.

Its like when people ask, where are you from? You tell them SMC, they won't know. But if the roots are in school, the audience can relate better to us.

And of course, we are and still will be a part of SMC.


As you said, people recognised larry as a magician exclusively.

We don't want larry no more. We want us :P

Larry has to step down from his league, and let us youngsters take over the platform he has created for us.

That's not saying that its 100% no larry. But if its a magic show in school, it should be done locally be us. If its a school event and they need us, they should come to us too. Larry being a part of NP alumni, is naturally with us too.

That is to say, our activities will be for school only.

And next, it will also be such that there will still be magicians in the school after we graduate. When Larry left, I don't think there were any until the 4 of us came into NP as year 1s.

As said, admission criteria will be looked upon.

Next, our club might be opened to other performers like jugglers and other manipulators as well. And as we are going to offer our services to NP solei, its great to have a wider repetoire of performers.

In addition, we cannot be doing magic shows all the time. The cost of learning is high to constantly have a supply of tricks to show the same audience.

These are some of our visions. It may or not be a physical thing, but we want our performers to be able to relate to our club and enjoy what they do.

Honestly, in my current cohort, it is so hard to find an audience that enjoys the art as it is. Even so, it can be a good gather point of new friends and other performers who like entertaining others.



Good morning sister. =) (1.30pm) lol. What support did u mention?

Going down to Heartland mall?

thanks for the kind comments ppl.

I have to agree on marcus for that. Making it a busker club will sound much more better in this sense.

Having a club coorindated to bring more talents to NP, it seriously was a good direction to look at. But like he mentioned, the ways to do it is hard, cause the rules are tough. And it will be easier for SMC ppl to gather in NP whenever they need meetings, because the club room in NP is BIG!!

So their coordinations might bring help to SMC, but neverthless, bringing help to NP is the first move, which i looking postively into it. As for me being exclusive, in NP, my time, i can harder know any magicians, because they wont appear in NP events, the str is too small if i not wrong. So the club might be able to coordinate them and make known to each other.

Regardin to Aloy reply, surely it wont be abt the republic poly dudes, you guys are good magicians, performing for audience and to me that time tells me that you guys are willing to learn. Each got their own views, we dun force ppl. :) Good Luck.

NP club room big? sure or not. The sports ones don't look that big.

It can be a club just to lend our hand at performances? Or just to entertain during events? We don't need to teach or expose we can just... perform.

Of course we will peform to one another to hone our skills like angles, misdirection and such. You won't learn something brand new. You will probably just learn how to improve.

My 2 cents. We agree to disagree.
(ps. just came back from service training camp too much been drilled to my head)

No, not that club house, most clubhouse in blk 72, are like for bands all those, dancer club etc. So the clubhouse is quite big, juz that its shared between different clubs.

Like the harmonica band might share with the strings assemble, etc

Those clubhouse in sports hall is for individual, so its smaller. :)

Didn't know anyways we are swaying :off: :P

No offence but just ignore those you don't like. They aren't worth the trouble usually.