hey guys, i was just wondering since most of you have been handling cards longer than i have, whether you guys have a few pointers/tips on doing the invisible pass? maybe i should stick an extra finger in there or something?

Ok dude.....this is like asking someone to teach you how to draw over the phone :ph43r: It is impossible without looking at how you are doing it. :mellow:

If you want, you can meet us for some of our regular meetings and gatherings that happens quite often and you can try asking someone during those.

The next one might be this Sunday, some of the guys might wanna meet up before and/or after the CCF event.

Some suggestions:

• If you are new to card magic there are other slights that will give you a much quicker return on your practice time. IMHO, you may want to focus on (and roughly in this order) a double lift, a double undercut, a false cut, a false shuffle, and some way to get a card out of a deck (I prefer a one hand top palm and a side steal works well too).
  
• If you want to learn a pass I recommend Aaron Fisher's Paper Machine. A great book on the half pass with material that can be adapted to other variants as well.
  
• Please keep in mind that many (most?) full time working professional magicians don't ever do invisible passes.

Personally, I have a great invisible pass (enough already). In fact, spectators will typically say, "nice pass" when I do it.

Try to look for some books or DVDs on the pass (that happens to be the name of one such DVD).

And as mgshn mentioned, passes aren't that important. There are so many other forms of control/colour change (although I think passes are preferably used for controls), that renders the pass less relevant.

I feel that for passes, just learn a few more common ones: classic, half, top-cover, bluff. Technique is one thing, but proper misdirection contributes more than 50% to the successful use of a pass.

err. you're suppose to stick a finger in there. like what aloy said, it's kinda weird since we do not know how you do your pass at all. double undercut works fine. hey, you can even add in 1 more cut if you like. ^_^

most of the time, you don't really use your passes when performing. very psycological thing. :blink:

Aaron

alright thanks for the tips guys. yeah i already know about the double lift, double undercut, false shuffle and 2 good passes. i was just trying to see if i could vary the way i get cards to the top with that pass. but still, thanks again for replying guys.

Hey there. If you're going for the ccf event, look for me. I'll help you out.

Ya, look for the pass man, he give u a good pass for you in CCF.

Most of us, when we begin magic, we thought that pass is the top thing we must learn in magic, but seriously, out of so many times, most of the time, i too lazy to do a pass, i just cut and complete the deck, and you done.

But well, if you learning it from ellusionist DVD, then like what is mention, do it slow, observe how your fingers go, master each finger correctly, before doing the motions.

haha yeah. i just love the fact that the audience can be looking at your hands, doing everything, showing them its squared up and all, and then the move is done. so blatant.

Really, when your misdirection and "acting" is good, you don't even need or even know how to do a pass. YOu can even tell the guy to watch your hands from all angles and still the card goes to the top!

A hint*- you need a few second of misdirection while closing up the deck. That's all you need.

Anyway, the method was taught by Blackwing.

And that's the truth! Though the pass works exceedingly well with some well-placed misdirection.

I will admit, it is lovely to watch an invisible pass and be fooled again and again but let's face the fact that although it's a really nifty move, you won't be using much of it in the real world.

I feel that the concept of the pass is like swatting a fly with a hammer, it gets the job done, but is it really necessary?

Just my opinion, hope I don't offend anyone.

Take care,

Logan