Has everyone seen the vid for the much talked about Black Widow by Darryl Vanamburg? For those who don't know anything about it (which planet have you been on, haha), you can check out the full info here ^_^

Do you think it's THE BOMB and you can throw out your Ravens? What are your thoughts about it? :)

Have fun polling! It's been ages since we had one... lol :lol:

;) ning

Oh my...:blink: The $$ involved.
No way i can afford it. :(

It looks GOOD... at least to me.
But people seldom wear long-sleeves in Singapore.
That's the one disadvantage i see.

A. :g:

Sums it up for me

Ning has been gushing about this since she found out about it..... :!!:
But it's like how she was gushing every expensive, new thing that get released every other week.... <_<

Is it just me or does anyone else feel almost $400 is a lot for a h***o** system? Although the reviews of it has been that it's money for quality.
But if anyone wanna sponsor me an unit..... :g: B)

Hey, you pay peanuts... you get monkeys!

Not my fault that most of the good stuff I noticed comes with a not so good pricetag! :lol: But seriously, if something 'good' came a price that is 'too cheap', wouldn't you seriously think twice and ponder? Really! Would you get Strong Magic (when it first comes out la) if D.O. priced it at only $15???

It's all a very logical equation, my friend <_< And please, go find yourself another 'sponsor'. I think I want to find a newer, richer boyfriend already... wuahahaha :!!:

Don't get me started with your price = quality thing with the crystal vs glass glasses... <_<

But it's TRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUE!!!!!!!!!!!! :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r:

Anyway Sir, you are going :off: *ahem* I'm sure you don't want a warning level right?

ning :wacko:

*steps away slowly*

Such conversation in a thread titled "Black Widow" is almost too sinister and scary.

ROTFL :lol: :lol: :lol: omg... maddened... you just made me laugh so hard I snorted Coke (the drink, not the banned substance) up my nose. Ouchie.

I got no murder weapon behind me back, really :g: Anyways, it IS true right? Anyone can tell the difference between cheap glass and good crystal flutes when you hit your nail against the glass and listen to the chime created! :ph43r:

That's ALL i have to say about it :unsure: Really.

Trust Ning to start a topic and then lead it all over the place.....<_<

*falls over and weeps* Ok, ok, blame the girl :ph43r:

Can we please get back on topic now? *miserable face*

We're supposed to talk about Black Widow!!! :wacko:

None, If its me, unless i am super rich, i strike a Toto, or some people drop me a $1000 dollar of note on the floor, or else i doubt i will ever invest the money on it.

Why? Because ya, you need a sleeved jacket to do the dirty work, well, but even though i think it could be done sleeveless, you still need some cover up. And it makes the sleeve look heavy, not that i watched the video several times, but logical, when you move your hands forward and backward, your sleeves will move automatically, whilist in the video, it was so hard and stiff and inplace throughout the whole move.

Ya, its powerful when you dont need to ditch, cause i think it is your moving actions that active the device forward and backward, so ya.

As for Ning and Aloy's fight, i have to agree with Ning, crystal is always different from glass, thats why the value will always be different. Although both looks like same type, but its because they are different, crystal is so much harder to make and find then glass. Thats an example la. So does effects, if david copperfield finally release his version for his effect for a 1000 bucks, someone will confirm get it one. But if its me releasing the similar effect for a 10 bucks, everyone will think i am crap.

Aloy, at least it is cheaper than Coach or LV bags. The prices are ridiculous! Hmmm.. come to think of it, I must not let my old lady get bitten by the magic bug! :P

The move looks good, but even I have spare cash, I'd invest it on other items. I guess to a normal audience, it doesn't matter if you use Raven or Black Widow. :) Too costly for me for a less than 3 sec effect! :P



:g: Oldman

Actualli at my point of view. And concidering the price. I think it it is not so worth it. Might as well just get a raven. Because if you have this sum of money. There so much and i mean SO MUCH. more things you can get.

It's a hold out system. You CANNOT use it sleeveless, period. And the sleeves not necessarily have to look that stiff.

But yes, Joshua, Black Widow IS cheaper than Coach and LV bags.
And it is definitely A LOT less strange for me to use Ning's Black Widow once in a while than Coach bags. :ph43r:
I guess I should count me blessings. :g:

Well, let say, i dont know anything about black widow, but alot of ppl feels that if the device can only be fixed to long sleeves, it will be dead end. But sometime, its up to the magician to figure out the way to work out into sleeveless. But it really have to depend on the device. If its meant to be long sleeves, and you are going to use it, good for you, then from there, you can look into the possible of making it sleeveless. or short sleeve.

Just my thoughts.

I really just want to emphasis this because I don't want anybody buying this item thinking they can find a way to use it short-sleeve like the Raven can.

This is one of those hold out systems that you need to wear a jacket to use it.
You CANNOT use it in short sleeves.
You can't change the handling to use it in short sleeves.
If somehow you managed to come up with a way to use this in short sleeves, you can release it as a manuscript and a lot of people around the world will be very keen to buy it from you.


Anyways, dispite our weather, I think wearing a jacket is not as big a problem as we might imagine. It's rather common nowadays actually.

The problem is really the price for the Black Widow.... :ph43r:

Sorry that i might have mislead people around, (maybe due to the tiring camp that my brain is starting to malfunction) :ph43r:

If it was me, i would spent on dvds, imagine how much dvds u could get just for this one gimmicked ? quite a few, vanishing stuff will get boring sometimes, buying more dvds with that money would mean alot, u could learn lots of effect.. :P :P