Heres my preview of the twisted flush, does anyone know who created this effect? I cant give the credit to the creator of it coz i've forgotten who he is... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CZNrfkCSO8

and give a review on my handling of it, advice needed ....

Here's my humble opinions on it...

The most striking thing to me is the "logic lapse". You were showing 4 cards all along, but for the finale, you showed 5 cards. There's a little of an ambiguous effect there i think.
What actually IS the finale (from the layperson point of view)?
Did the 4 aces turned into different cards? Or did 4 cards become 5 cards?
You may say it's BOTH, but to me personally, that actually weakens the effect, although it may come as a surprise for the spec at 1st.
And the other danger to that is that showing that you have 5 cards, the spec might be tempted to think that you haven't exactly been honest with your counting all along. They might even think that you could actually have MORE than 5 cards, since you could count 5 cards as 4, you could have counted even more as 4 maybe?
Now that would be a ridiculous and absurb theory we wouldn't want the specs to think would we? B)

Other than that, i think your handling's pretty good. The elmsley was good and smooth, and you handled the cards well. Good job. :)
You should come to our gatherings more yah? B)

Thank u so much for the comments, really appreciate that, atlast theres a reply on my post..hehehe, come to ur gathering? sure, but i never been to ur gathering before im quite new, and i dont even know most of you..

By the way the effect is from bill malone vol 2 if im not wrong, its called twisted flush...thats how he perform it, i didnt knew it would weaken the effect , maybe i must use some patter next time..

Thanks aloy for ur reply.

:)

Well....my comments were just my opinions, others might disagree.

I just had another thought about how it could work with a 5 card finale.
Perhaps u could use the "pseudo-exposure" tactic, ala the cups and balls final load standard tactic, where you can say something like...

"Well, to be honest with you, to do this, I have an extra card (shows 5 cards). But I'm still not sure how this helps....(turn over the cards to show a royal flush)".

Actually, personally, i dun really like the pseudo-exposure tactic, but it's just 1 way you can make this work.



And none of us know each other before finding SMC too....that's why we gather, to get to know each other. B)

I never attended any meeting before and yesterday was my first time meeting SMC peeps. It was great. So do turn up when there is meeting. :D

I agree with Aloy on the showing of 5 cards at the end. It is like :blink: to me as to why you would show 5 at the end. 'Sides that, i think your Elmsley was slick.

Not bad at all on the whole.

A. :g:

Thank you sooo much, i appreciate ur help, and i really like the add-on ur talking about? about saying i cheat actuallie i have 5 cards , make some jokes they may be impressed..thanks for that, never thought of that, n yong_tianadeline u attend for the first time? how was it? i'll try to find a time to be at the gathering but how do i know where issit or what time etc? my handling is slick? but i think its crap, i dont know, seen most of the magician perform it really nice, im still new in this art..so help me when u can, thank you.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:g:

I believed this effect was on the Bill Malone Tapes.

The way the patter worked was "Some ppl accused me of using extra cards. In fact, I do. However, I don't use the four aces. Instead I use a Royal Flush."

Ahhh...i see...I haven't seen this effect before but anyway that was what I meant by "pseudo-exposure" tactic.

I think that's too important a patter line to leave out then. It makes the finale looks disconnected.

What was good:
-Sleights were smooth
-Handling was good

What could be better:
-It could be just me, but I would prefer it if you turn over the cards normally (esp. the first turnover and the last)
-I suppose with patter, the effect would be more easily understandable.
-However, the trick itself is rather poorly structured in terms of the effects it achieves (that makes the trick unclear and less impactful).
-Slow down (or again, it may be due to the lack of patter on the vid)

As to the 5 cards or 4 cards thing, I think enough has been said about it.

Rather good job, keep it up!

Thanks for the comments, i wanted to talk but for videos i feel like im talking alone, in real life i would use patter, done that once to cousins and the first word they said was how did u do that? do it again..LOL :D

Nicely executed my friend.

I agree with everyone's advice.

As nice as the effect is, you're not doing it any justice if you don't add patter to it.

There are some tricks where patter hurts and there are some tricks that thrive off the patter - this falls in the latter category.

Good luck!

Logan