Title: Cards Forever.
Freeze - July 28, 2006 05:47 AM (GMT)
Hi there. I'm posting another thread and hope there isn't any other thread for this to get it deleted, i may get a warning =X ( hope not )
Well, how do you guys take card of your deck of cards? Including the cover. I mean like how to best keep your cards clean and in good condition so that it will last longer?
And how or where do you keep your cards when you're bringing it around? Do you keep it in a file? inside a metal casing? plastic bag?
Hope to hear comments. Thanks.
Maddened - July 28, 2006 11:27 AM (GMT)
Though I'm no cardman, you'll find that most pros use a card clip. The name suddenly escapes me at this moment, but I'm sure someone will post it up sooner than you can say, "Joe Porper clip!"
Oh wait... That's the name - Porper clip!
I think these are expensive though and there are cheaper ones around. But I'll leave this to the people who actually use the clips to elaborate more. B)
[Ling] - July 28, 2006 11:38 AM (GMT)
Yeah, a card guard would do the job of lengthening the lifespan of the cards decently. The silver one would be good enough. However, if you want more power in the doing the job, get the Joe Porper one, of course, it costs twice as much as the silver one.
My advice, the silver one will do. B)
Darry - July 28, 2006 12:14 PM (GMT)
Twice? Last time I checked the Porper was 55 and the silver one was 15. Maybe prices have dropped. Anyway I agree, go for the silver clip.
<Aaron> - July 28, 2006 01:24 PM (GMT)
yep, use the silver one. Though it does not exert that much of a pressure though as the joe's one. i think it's due to joe's having a curve in its design.
What i do is after use, keep cards back in the card case and leave the flap open for a while so cards can cool down. Don't leave it open for too long though. Put it in a cool and dark room.
when bringing around, just put it in the original card case and put in pocket. BUT if you're really fussy over a slightest tear, wrap the case tightly in a plastic bag, then keep it. Looks weird though.
Aaron
CyberMew - July 28, 2006 03:59 PM (GMT)
Er, if it was a new pack of cards, will it straighten it out? Because i know that the cards is actually concave face up..
[Ling] - July 28, 2006 04:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (CyberMew @ Jul 28 2006, 11:59 PM) |
| Er, if it was a new pack of cards, will it straighten it out? Because i know that the cards is actually concave face up.. |
That is due to the extreme humidity condition of Singapore...
dtjk - July 28, 2006 04:26 PM (GMT)
If you got the extra cash, go straight for the Joe Porper one. If not.. guess the silver one's the only option.
I used to use the silver card clip, but I realised that it does not keep the entire deck compressed, but only at the side that's nearer to the spine of the deck. At the opening there is not really compressed. It also scratches the deck box, and in long term usage, it actually damages the deck box. But of course, for the price you get, this is probably good enough already..
However, a Joe Porper card clip can compress the entire deck, from head to toe, as the spine of the card clip is designed differently. It also has a very nice classy finish which looks and feels very good. And, it doesnt damage the card box. HOWEVER, heres the big HOWEVER, it cost 3 times the price of the silver ones..
Heres a topic on an extensive discussion of Joe Porper Card Clip:
http://forums.singaporemagiccircle.com/ind...wtopic=2027&hl=Hope this helped. ;)
Freeze - July 28, 2006 06:09 PM (GMT)
erm, okay. but is there a picture of it or something? Is it available in singapore? ( can i ask this question? if not delete this)
GordonLi - July 28, 2006 11:55 PM (GMT)
Why would you need to "protect" your cards so well anyway?
The box is there for a reason (besides to package, but also to protect the cards).
I'd just leave the cards in the box, and would rather invest in more packs of cards than card clips.
Moreover, I wouldn't want to have the card clip seen by whoever I'm performing to. Because it is out of the ordinary, their attention is diverted (yes, they'll often ask "What is that?", etc, and some amused people might even try to handle it). In addition, the audience might think: if it's a normal pack of cards, why would you need to protect them with that weird looking thing? So the card clip distracts and adds to suspicions.
I just place the pack of cards either in my bag or my pocket, and they are in good condition (even the box).
Kevin - July 29, 2006 04:51 AM (GMT)
The OFFICIAL 3-step Kev H method of making your cards last forever!
1NE-
buy four decks of cards with similar backs.
2WO-
remove all the jokers, ad cards, hearts, clubs, and spades from each deck.
3HREE-
place all the leftover cards into the same card case, and I'll guarantee you'll be using your deck for a looooooooooooooong time.
I'll get back to this later.
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The left side of my face tells me that Gordon has no idea what he's talking about, and the right side of my face tells me that he's got a really good point.
Tarantino style, I'll eleaborate on the second point first. Anytime an 'oddity' is brought into play- something the spectators do not immediately recognize as being 'in the norm', your credibility drops, even if for just a fraction. Cards, themselves, already border on this level of 'oddity'- if you could really do magic, why would you have to use your own cards... in fact, why would you have to use cards at all?
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Where was I? Oh, yeah- left side of my face. On the other hand (or at least on the other side of my face), we have the people who need to practice, who aren't prepped up enough to busy out an effect or a full-blown routine wherever they go. They practice everywhere- hot hawker centers, air-conditioned malls, porno conventions (that's a lot of sweat on the deck right there) and even... wait for it... at home. Because of the humidities and enviromentationalizationifications the cards have been in, in addition to the numerous times the cards may have been dropped, PLUS the sweat and oil and pimples and shit...take mushrooms on the cards- you're gonna want to renew your deck every now and then. On an average rate, most decks get soggy and clumped together within the first 2 weeks, depending on how much you practice, and how often you go on water rides. Because of the condition of the deck, it'll be hard to do pinky counts and ribbon spreads, cards that need to be crimped will just mush back into their former shape within seconds, and plus, it's even harder to wipe your ass with them.
Did I say that out loud? Uh... only with carta mundi cards.
Dammit. Lost my train of thought.
Ah! there we go. With a deck in that conditions, most of us would like to have renewed, rejuvenated, and ressurected. One way to do this is to just buy new decks. But think about it- if you're the real card freak like... most of us are, based on the average mentioned earlier, that's a deck every two weeks. That's 26 decks a year, and let's say the average price is $4 a pack... you're not gonna buy a brick of 'em right away! That amounts to $104 dollars a year. Let's extrapolate, and go so far as to say you've been into this nasty habit for 4 years. That's $416 dollars, not counting the money you could have spent on those gaffed decks, coin shells, and sponge ding-dongs. More than $400 in cold, hard cash, that you could be spending on chicks, booze, and heroin. Not drugs in general- just heroin.
Now let's take a look at the other option, a card clip. In past experience, I've known a card clip to keep a deck in satisfactory condition for about 2 months, 450% as much as just keeping the deck straight (for the card enthusiasts, I mean). Saving you the treacherous experience of going through another one of my biased, pointless, and completely inaccurate calculations, the same system with a card clip will cost at most $151- $96 for the cards, and the maximum of $55 your dealers will cheat out of you for the (porper) card clip. Think about it- you've saved at LEAST $265. That's 2,650 public phone calls. That's 5,300 4-packs of seaweed- if you buy them individually. That's almost another 18 (non-porper) card clips that you could re-sell to your dumb-witted friends (did I say friends?) for a jacked up price... how much exactly is up to your guilt factor, i.e. how much you can rip them off before you get the feeling they'll find out and flay you. Long story short, it's cheaper.
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| I'd just leave the cards in the box, and would rather invest in more packs of cards than card clips. |
I don't know how to spend negative money, bro.
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The right side of my face just bitch-slapped me and told me that was a really cheap shot. I apologize for the inconvenience... Kevin is now under renovation, expect a new, improved Kevin coming your way in about.. 3 seconds.
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| ...the card clip distracts and adds to suspicions. |
Like I said earlier, that's a good point. As a result, you can still use the card clip without having it incite any suspicion. Just keep it in your bag, and when you're not using your cards, keep them in the clip in the case in the bag in the safe in the room in the house in estate in the city in the Korean DMZ. Safety first!
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Half of you b*****ds didn't even read through the whole post- you just scrolled down, saw red text that was shorter in length to read than th black text. In that case, let me finish the point I started.
Why a pack of cards devoid of 3 of the 4 suits? Because diamonds last fo-
aw, fuggit. That's lame.
-Kev 'delusional schizophrenic' H
cioxxx - July 29, 2006 04:55 AM (GMT)
i have to admit i didn't really read the whole of your post. but it had me on the floor if that was your intention at all.
[Ling] - July 29, 2006 05:28 AM (GMT)
Kev is back with his post of utter bollocks! Hooray!
=D Nice one.
joeltay81 - August 6, 2006 03:37 PM (GMT)
Go for the best. Porper. If you do ambitious, mind bender and other tricks that completely warp your cards, using this will bring it back to its original condition.... or close to. No need to get a new deck of cards.