Title: Mask Changing?
Gabriel-wong - September 5, 2006 05:24 PM (GMT)
Hi. As I've viewed a few stage magic performed by asians, I seen some of them doing some magics with MASK which is a cool one for asians.
Anyone know is there any magic on Mask I can find? thanks!
zomaziz - September 6, 2006 11:43 PM (GMT)
I think it's more of an art on its own rather than magic.
Tried doing some research for you...
Found nothing. :g:
... Heh, don't think there're any instructional dvds on this yet. I've only heard of a few people who are practising it right now.
Freeze - September 7, 2006 04:55 PM (GMT)
:blink: Masks. ergh.. they look scary to me.
Well, i agree it's more of an art than to magic. Probably requires 10 years of practice and 10 mins on stage.
Gabriel-wong - September 8, 2006 11:45 AM (GMT)
Mask is an art. Magic to me is also an art.
Just trying to combine them together for my shows. Saw a few people did it so wondering if I can find any details on it.
I did some research too, cant find anything.
Gabriel-wong - November 26, 2006 07:24 AM (GMT)
Hi... I've just did a few research on mask and would like to try it out first but I cant get some cheap plain mask for me to try out..
Anyone know where to buy such mask?
http://www.unitedmaskandparty.com/Masks/im..._white_mask.JPGIts a Cheap plastic, white plain mask. I should not cost a lot. maybe just a few dollars. Please keep an look out for me so I can continue on my research... Thank you very much
Gabriel
AhLiShuFi - November 26, 2006 08:17 AM (GMT)
I heard the art is very costly to learn. To learn it from someone may cost you around 20000dollars, to learn as well as to obtain the props.... no kidding. Unless u talking about those diy mask where u change only 2 or 3 times, which i feel, better dun do. But nevertheless, you might still want to give it a try if you really like it.
Jeff Gan - November 26, 2006 01:17 PM (GMT)
I read in the papers about a teenage Malaysian girl who took part in a magic competition here with her mask change act. She won most promising act or something.
Therefore I'm not too sure about the exclusivity or the expensive costs (these days).
Good luck in finding out more about it.
chanzian - November 27, 2006 12:01 AM (GMT)
err i think there're two different kinds of mask magic. One is the one Jeff Mcbride did in someworld's greatest magician act.
The other one is the chinese traditional 'bian nian'. I think the bian nian one is really quite impossible to learn. Must go china and beg people to teach. (that's what my friend told me) and it takes many many years to be able to say, perform a decent act of changing at least 36 different faces. I saw once on this channel8 show where this singapore dude performed it but he could only change 12 faces, so his act was shorter then 5minutes. Quite sad.
ZiAn
Lefty - November 27, 2006 02:15 AM (GMT)
We have our local magician performing it during his competition. Well, for the chinese version, the gimmick itself can cost you a bomb!
AhLiShuFi - November 27, 2006 03:51 PM (GMT)
Yup.. My earlier post was talking about the chinese version. I have a fren who found someone who he can learn from, and the price quoted was around 20K. Yup. Good luck.
Alex Tan - November 30, 2006 07:11 PM (GMT)
Chanzian,
Why is changing 12 masks and the act being 5 minutes sad in your opinion?
No offence but the mere fact that you even feel this way shows how ignorant you are about art. It seems like you are one who favors quantity over quality.
Is it necessary to change 30 masks in a mask changing act? I don't think so. The audience would be bored to death.
When a Magician produces billiard balls, does he produce thousands to make his point? Then again, would it even be entertaining to the audience even if he does so? Would the audience sit around to even witness that?
When a Magician does a dove act, does he produce 30 birds to prove his point? The audience get the point that he can produce doves magically even with a few doves. Lance Burton produce less than 10 doves in his act that won him the award of FISM Grand Prix.
Think about it... there's a reason that there isn't a dumb enough Magician who would even think about producing 30 doves in a dove act, so why would a mask changer even think about doing 30 changes in a single choreographed act totally escape me?
Jeff McBride does less than 10 in his act. Juliana Chen does less than 10 changes in her act.
Maybe you can enlighten the rest of us?
Just for the record, the mechanics does allow mask changers to make up to 30 changes but there's a reason most are not doing it.
Bewildered,
Alex
ThomasLim - December 1, 2006 03:02 AM (GMT)
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Just for the record, the mechanics does allow mask changers to make up to 30 changes but there's a reason most are not doing it.
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wow.... thats interesting, Alex. All the while, I have the impression that for mask changing, the more masks you are able to change implies the higher skill level you have. Is it wrong to have this concept? :blink:
I think this is quite a different art from the magic art we are talking about. Isnt it? :unsure:
BlUeCoWz - December 1, 2006 05:53 AM (GMT)
Wow. 30 in 5 minutes, that'll take More than just mask changing,
as in different techniques of mask changing, rapid change.
I think if you take 2 seconds to change a mask [for example] den doing all 30
at the same pace, the same technique, Yes it'll be very boring.
But if you can do 30 changes and Keep the audiences attention... then...
Kudos to you... :lol:
Blackwing - December 2, 2006 11:27 AM (GMT)
Actually I think changing 12 masks is really impressive. Its nothing to do with the number actually but watching a mask change act is fascinating. If you changed you mask 30 times, I'd find it a tad boring.
Besides 5 mins is a suitable for a stage act.
M.A.D. - May 14, 2007 08:52 AM (GMT)
i visited Holland Rd Shp Ctr today found "MAGIC WAND" do Sichuan Bian Lian too. :P
Wow, Patrick Wan do Ventriloquial Show and now Sichuan Bian Lian. B)
Ace - May 14, 2007 02:15 PM (GMT)
Lol ya when I found out that he was doing Sichuan Bian Lian I was also like O.o!!!
Not sure if he went China to learn it. :lol:
chanzian - May 18, 2007 01:18 PM (GMT)
Alex Tan,
if i did not remember wrongly, the guy who performed it was called Alex too. If it was you, well, then...opps.. If it's not you, than thank god.
No offense taken because i am really a layperson when it come to bian nian. So obviously i don't know how the mechanism works, if that's what you're thinking. But as a layperson, i was not impressed. And that's all i need to say.
A layperson, not impressed, you go figure.
ZiAn
Alex Tan - May 18, 2007 07:02 PM (GMT)
Everyone's a critique.
No worries... the feeling is mutual, I wasn't impressed by your pressence.
Did I have fun today? Yes I did.
Was I impressed with myself today? Well, not exactly. I have seen myself with that act too many times and there are better days.
Firstly I'm a professional entertainer and I'm glad I'm doing exactly what I love, entertaining myself while entertaining others.
Yes, it's my reality so I come first.
I was impressed with Bian Lian when I first saw it performed by my master.
How else? He better be good since he devoted his whole life to the art. I'm new and learning. I respect the art so even though I'm a Magical entertainer, I spent 3 years learning how to sew, paint, perform opera and most important grow and have fun.
At no time during any of my performances do I attempt to impress anyone, much less impress you, ZiAn, you see I have better things to do and I have grown out of it, considering there are billions of people in this world.
It's always easier to say something.
Strange thing is I'm not exactly impressed by David Blaine but the mere fact that he's still making millions definitely proves the fact that he knows something I don't so I still respect him.
You, GO FIGURE.
I better catch the much needed rest for the shows I will still be performing tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow and years more...
I love my job and the steaks it brings.
I sincerely hope that you are just as lucky.
You never fail to puzzle me once again.
Love,
Alex Tan