The Authority on Classic Forcing has been passed in many books and of course in Paul Green's DVD 'The Classic Force'. But i don't think they've ever mentioned a situation similar to what happened recently when I was forcing in a classical manner.
I asked my friend's friend to pick a card, and I started spreading the deck from hand to hand.
He didn't pick any.
Then I slowed down to a stop quarter-way through, his hand started moving up and I started spreading the cards again, then he stopped again.
Needless to say, he didn't pick any until i spread to the last portion of the deck and stopped. I asked him why he didn't initially pick any: I was spreading the cards for him to pick conveniently, and he said ( this is the interesting part)," You keep moving the cards... how to take.."
I was shocked, I was expecting an answer like 'why cannot ah? i can take whichever card i want what!'. I thought that he was being what Paul Green described as a magician buster - the ones who just wait...

So anyway my tip at this point is self-evident: if the person you are classic forcing to is waiting and he/she doesn't look like the type who would heckle, maybe you should just stop spreading altogether, and...well you noe the rest...(dun wish to risk exposure) Hope it was helpful.

Well, if i do meet with such situations whereby the person gave me such a reason, i would change it to a riffle force instead. :mellow:

My 2 cents.

But, wouldn't he say
"when you riffle, the cards keep moving, how to say stop?!" :lol:

Anyway, I've seen the classic force work that way before. (as in the cards not moving thing)
Nonetheless, there're plenty of forces to switch to. But let's not go back to that again..

It is true actually, to keep spreading the cards for someone to pick one seems counter-intuitive, and even I would not like to select a card this way.

I think the fairness of it can be emphasised by saying that he/she can pick "any card at all", "take any you like, whichever appeals to you", etc. to create reason (fairness from randomness) for the continuous spreading.

If faced with such a person who is particularly hesitant to pick from a moving spread (which most people are to a small extent, as I said), then I will simply slow the spreading.

But I would not substitute the Classic Force for anything else (I do it almost all the time), unless I truly need a 100% sure-fire force.

I agree with what Gordon said. Normally I would use the classic force to do a mind reading trick. For the classic force, always be prepared to have another trick prepared as the classic force is not 100% certain. It varies from people to people.

Adrian

I had the chance to attend a lecture by Sean Taylor just a week ago and was able to see how he did his classic force. He claims that this is the best force he can perform because he has been doing this for 25 years time after time everyday at his shop. He was smooth doing it, as he demostrated it to me. He claims to get the right card more then 95% of the time. That is 19 out of 20 times. Amazing.

One tip was that as you spread the cards out, and after the desired card has been picked (those who are familiar with this force will understand how it is done), close the fan so that it is not obvious to the spectator that there is a break somewhere in the cards, or that a force has been made; and also so that they do not change their mind. It's a small subtle move, but he really emphasized that. Have not seen anyone else suggestive that anywhere though.

On your question about them not choosing the cards, I guess you just have to slow down the spread and when they are about to choose the card, a little unnoticable thrust of the card to their finger will help alot.

The way you instruct them is also important. Don't say pick any card. Try to get them to do a point action before spreading your cards. Then just tell them to pick a card. Don't say any card. You also don't want to be too slow about this or they will start thinking. You just want them to choose 'freely'. I find that it helps doing that.

i donno about u all but i find is hard to spread the cards nicely and evenly when i hav a break..it jus seems to do hay wired..so i hardly use the classic force...normally if i need the person to pick out the hard i would use a riffle..if i only need the spec to look at which ever card is picked..i would use the force that brad christian did in his crash course two..when he did this trick to a old lady..it resembles that classic one...except it's done with something like a cull..i find these two 100% fool proof so i like using them..but anyone has a tip on how to spread wif a break?

Yeah I have that problem too, but as they always say practice makes perfect. Although for now, I'll be using the riffle force as it looks almost fool proof. I think as long we ensure that our spectators do not take their selection too seriously, any kind of force will do pretty good.

I would like to share some tips regarding the CF, I think I read this from Card College, where the suggested manner of having a card forced was to have it 2/3 down (as usual) and create stress by telling them "In a moment, I am going to have a person select one card from the deck." Then approach person A to pick a card while spreading the deck (here, the other audience members will subconsciously give a sigh of psychological relief), then, as you near the force card, appear to change your mind and turn to person B instead. Here, person B will feel stress (right after the relaxation) and he sees that less cards are left as they are being spread, and will be more inclined to go for the easiest choice. But of course, all these "stress" should be done subtly.

Sounds like a useful tip, will try it out the next time I use the CF.

If you find it difficult to spread with a break, it means that your break is too big. Try to reduce the size of the break. That will make it much easier and much more deceptive.

Interesting point to note. Probably will remember it when I start trying the force.

For now I'll just stick to the under the spread force :lol: Works well enough for me!

May be its better to not hold a break when you start spreading. I do it the way Paul Green does it, that is to angle jog at the break when starting to spread. Its good because the break is covered by your left thumb and the front of the spread looks perfectly normal.