this is my own creation.....i doubt anyone will figure this out...and this is fully examinable..and fool proof to any Id**t who would be out to spoil your trick..but if u guys do figure it out KUDOS man you must be good.


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:) In your case, your fully examinable, does that mean your 2 of spades also can be examined?

Anyway, I am not here to "try to guess the method". But try not to put so much stands into your words. :)

Umm, same here. I'm not trying to heckle or whatever. But what's with the "doubt anyone will figure this out"? We don't watch videos to figure it out, you know. :mellow:

Anyway, nice trick, since you created it yourself. Could do with some improvements patter-wise though. :g:

hahah i guess your right....but cause ive never seen this done by anyone esle let alone the gimick...then sandking say post post in smc all dont know haha so i post haha...paiseh :( but you guys know the gimick?

my version of it ya can examine the 2 spades both before and after but some handling required...somewhat similiar to the handling on m*cury with a little twist but same concept

Sorry bro, don't get offended, but I got really bored watching it. Frankly speaking.

And although the effect I must say looks good, don't get all worked up about "you can't figure it out" thingy.

- harapan ong

Ouch.

Nonetheless, keep up your works! :)

Okie, My advise for your act is. It lacks the impact. Something is missing. Its like you lost the card, and then you pull out from the deck inside the cover. Not enough build in to the act.

Compare with your act, i think the card raising from the deck will have more visual impact than you pull it off from the deck. :)

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the effect is quite nice, but the performance is not that good.

And by just watching the video once, i got one method to accomplish the same effect and a few other methods to accomplish a similar effect. And i'm just a newbie when it comes to cards so yea,

yea keep up the good work and work on your presenatation ;)

I had a headache before watching it and my headache got progressively worse when i watched it.. Do try to use a better quality videocam to do the recording.

I tend to agree with what the others before me said. There is something missing. Its lacks the 'BAM', the impact.

Besides that, i also thought the lossing of the card in the deck seems a bit too flashy when just simple a few simple cuts should suffice. I think people generally get suspicious (even when its got nothing to do with that) when you do over-flashy stuff.

A.

Performance wise, why would you let your spectator examine that the box is close..then u open it again..and the close it again. Defeats the purpose of letting them examining it doesn't it?

Nice effect, very decent. I liked it very much.

I agree with the others about presentation, very much lacking in that department brother. Also, when it comes to losing cards, ditch flourishes, it does nothing other than say 'Look what I can do with cards...' which is not good when you're trying to convince an audience that you're trying to lose their card in the deck.

Just stick the card in, it's lost, get on with it.

Another thing would be that posting a video, attaching it to a 'You can't figure this out' line isn't going to do much good because:

i) If an effect is a 'magician-fooler', it will speak for itself.

ii) Watching magic videos is NOT about figuring them out, it just happens to be that way because we, as magicians, have the knowledge behind the working and hence when watching an effect, we automatically deduce the method, but it shouldn't be the reason for watching a video.

iii) It makes you appear very proud and cocky, not good if you're trying to make friends I think.

Here's a tip on presentation, if you want it:

Force the card, do a routine where the card ends up under the box, then on top of the box and finally in the box (typical card-to-card box routine). Offer to do it again but in reverse (i.e. instead of the card going TO the box, it's coming OUT), under test conditions, and then do 'Think Outside The Box'.

I think it will make your effect stand out ten times due to the sequence of events that lead up to it.

Take care fellow SMC member. I hope to see more of your vids sometime soon.

Logan

P.S. Just in case you're wondering, yes, I figured it out.

Actually i only have one word for your video, but since a one-word post will be considered as spamming i have to type all these to cover it up. Boring. No offence man bro....i think the previous posts have said it all.

I am so happy reading thru this thread because it shows how much more mature the attitude of our forumites are compared to those "magic forums" which is all about "how you did this?", "how he did that?", "Can you figure this out? hurhur...".
I feel so proud of SMC. You guys rock! :!!: B)

Having said that, I shall not rub it in any further with the "figuring out" part. I'm sure Dot gets the idea now. :)
Don't feel too bad Dot, many of us started with that perspective, but we all had to learn it some time.

Overall, I think it's a pretty good effect, and good on you if you came up with that yourself.
However, I vaguely remember seeing a gimmick exactly like what you used there, but I don't think it's for a penetration effect but for a re-boxing effect.

Presentation wise, there are very good words of wisdom from the posts above mine so I shall not repeat them. i just want to add on is that in your eagerness to prove the impossibility of the effect, you over-proved too much.
And, in my opinion, you should consider pulling the choosen card come out quickly and suddenly, to even better hide the method.

Don't give up on this one. Work on the presentation and routine.
With a strong presentation, I would even say this is good enough to sell. :)



P.S A little note coz I just noticed the title. If you ever get to sell this, please don't call it Think Outside the Box. :lol:

Yep, come on man, whats the deal on 'i doubt you guys can figure this out'? Are you challenging your own fellow magician friends here? <_<

Haha, and I agree with some of the others here, that the effect really lacks the WOW factor. I believe that any others can do another much more simpler effect with a cardbox, and certainly can get better reactions than yours because magic is very much about presentation, baby. ;)

So dont present your magic in a way it becomes a mystery to other people okay, because if its a mystery, then its just a puzzle they wanna figure out, instead of truly enjoying it. :)

Anyway, I believe this effect is practically the same as 'Free Fall' by Steve Brooks. Not too diss you, but well if is another method that u thought of yourself , then good for you. You can work it out to market it, maybe. ^_^