Title: Is It A Must To Practise Coins Tricks Using Us And
DeviLFisH - September 27, 2006 12:01 PM (GMT)
UK coins?
Because I noticed many magicians like to use .
Is it easier to handle as compare to our local coins? That's why?
alexlim - September 27, 2006 01:05 PM (GMT)
You can use singapore coins. however i have come to prefer using half dollars as they are bigger and more visual. certain sleights are easier on bigger coins as well.
But then again I believe using coins people are familiar with will make the trick seem more impromptu thus will achieve a bigger impact.
If they made Singapore coins bigger I'll surely use them.
DeviLFisH - September 27, 2006 02:20 PM (GMT)
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yong_tianadeline - September 27, 2006 02:49 PM (GMT)
For me, its not a must. Its a preference.
The US half dollar is bigger, slightly heavier than Singapore coins. Besides this, most importantly (for me), it has a ridge side. Some Singapore 50 cents are not ridged and it poses a GREAT problem for people like me who have wet palm problems.
I agree though, the effect (sometimes) is much better if you use a singapore coin since there will be les suspicion that the coin is gimmicked, even though the US half dollar may be ungimmicked as well. :)
A.
PS. Just for the people who like shinier coins, Singapore coins produced in 1997 and 2005 are shinier than normal. You can look for those if you want.
Cadbury - September 28, 2006 06:44 AM (GMT)
Its illegal to gaff singapore coins i think. Coin magic with US currency has been around so much that they have a full range of gaffs to work with. Like [, f***ing coins, buttercoin etc etc.
Its then better to use US coins since all these are made with Kennedy halves.
Magicdow - September 28, 2006 07:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cadbury @ Sep 28 2006, 02:44 PM) |
Like [, f***ing coins, buttercoin etc etc.
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f***ing coin sounds crude :lol: .
joeltay81 - September 28, 2006 09:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Magicdow @ Sep 28 2006, 03:21 PM) |
[/QUOTE] f***ing coin sounds crude :lol: . |
Haha! That was funny. B)
It's illegal to gaff Singapore coins. When using oversea coins that require gaff coins, you can just hand around an ungaffed one prior to the trick and let the audience examine it so that they are familiar with it and would not think it is a gaff. Then switch the coin using any method you know to the gaffed one. You might want to give an excuse for using a foreign coin by saying something about it being a favourite coin of yours. Or you can tell them the truth and say that foreign coins are heavier and bigger. better for magic effects.
neo23 - September 28, 2006 11:12 AM (GMT)
Personally I use singapore coins because of skeptism(sp?)
And yes, using half quarters are much much easier imo.
On a side note, I know its illegal but I've seen gaff s'pore coins before. :o
DeviLFisH - September 28, 2006 11:17 AM (GMT)
:unsure: so I am a newbie on coin magics
so better start with local coins?
or US?
I only find local 50 cents abit better to work with compare to 20 cents....
next if I go money changer can changed for US and UK coins??
Cadbury - September 28, 2006 12:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Magicdow @ Sep 28 2006, 03:21 PM) |
| QUOTE (Cadbury @ Sep 28 2006, 02:44 PM) | Like [, f***ing coins, buttercoin etc etc.
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f***ing coin sounds crude :lol: .
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haha, cant help it else it will expose :XXX
Cadbury - September 28, 2006 12:47 PM (GMT)
Yeah i saw a fren with a gaffed Singapore 50 cents too. But i think its really expensive.
As for money changers, i think they dont do small currency exchanges. Though they might.
I do have a few Kennedy halves around and if you want can PM me. ^_^
DeviLFisH - September 29, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
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chanzian - September 30, 2006 11:03 AM (GMT)
I've seen the Cig/pen through coin for a singapore 50 cents. Jerome told me that they have the biting one for singapore 50cents too, although i've never seen it. Jerome you might want to confirm this if you're reading?
Well, i always feel that it's something fishy to use overseas coins. i don't know why. Say for eg, once i saw a magician put a US half dollar into a heineken bottle that i was drinking from. so in my mind i immediately thought that the coin was gaffed, since it was a normal bottle. (i don't know how it was done, and im not fishing.) but i guess if he did it with a singapore coin i might not feel that way?
jeromefang - September 30, 2006 08:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (chanzian @ Sep 30 2006, 07:03 PM) |
| I've seen the Cig/pen through coin for a singapore 50 cents. Jerome told me that they have the biting one for singapore 50cents too, although i've never seen it. Jerome you might want to confirm this if you're reading? |
Yup thats correct coin bite was available before in both the 50cent and 1 dollar. I heard of a particular local magic shop sells it so i went there to take a look. Fortunate enough, they still had both of them but they were the last 2 pieces left. I did'nt buy it in the end because its too expensive. It was $45 for the coin. For $45, i rather buy a dvd :P but I can see why its that expensive. The coin was very well made and even up close looking at the front and back face of the coin, you can't tell that its a gimmick coin. Not sure if the shops still sells it though as it was quite a few months ago that I saw it.
Ok, back to topic. Whether practising with US or SG coins is more of a preference issue. Generally, I would say performing with SG coins hits the spectator harder as local coins is something we all can relate to. Plus due to our stringent counterfeit laws, the thought of having a gimmick coin is very unlikey to cross the spectator's mind. Lastly, it makes borrowing a coin which gives the impromptu setting so much stronger.
I personally practice with both. For sleights, I normally use SG coins. Even my Muscle pass was practiced using our SG 50cent which made the Muscle pass using the Half-dollar much much easier. For Chink-a-Chink or Shadow coins, I would use Half-dollars as they're are bigger and when its shiny, the transposition looks very beautiful. All in all, I would say it really depends on what you really want to achieve in your coin magic. If its pure sleights, SG coins are sufficient, although some sleights are easier with US coins. If you want to explore on gimmicks, US coins would be much better as they're readily available. Hope this helps in your decision making ^_^
DeviLFisH - October 5, 2006 01:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jeromefang @ Oct 1 2006, 04:30 AM) |
Yup thats correct coin bite was available before in both the 50cent and 1 dollar. I heard of a particular local magic shop sells it so i went there to take a look. Fortunate enough, they still had both of them but they were the last 2 pieces left. I did'nt buy it in the end because its too expensive. It was $45 for the coin. For $45, i rather buy a dvd :P but I can see why its that expensive. The coin was very well made and even up close looking at the front and back face of the coin, you can't tell that its a gimmick coin. Not sure if the shops still sells it though as it was quite a few months ago that I saw it.
Ok, back to topic. Whether practising with US or SG coins is more of a preference issue. Generally, I would say performing with SG coins hits the spectator harder as local coins is something we all can relate to. Plus due to our stringent counterfeit laws, the thought of having a gimmick coin is very unlikey to cross the spectator's mind. Lastly, it makes borrowing a coin which gives the impromptu setting so much stronger.
I personally practice with both. For sleights, I normally use SG coins. Even my Muscle pass was practiced using our SG 50cent which made the Muscle pass using the Half-dollar much much easier. For Chink-a-Chink or Shadow coins, I would use Half-dollars as they're are bigger and when its shiny, the transposition looks very beautiful. All in all, I would say it really depends on what you really want to achieve in your coin magic. If its pure sleights, SG coins are sufficient, although some sleights are easier with US coins. If you want to explore on gimmicks, US coins would be much better as they're readily available. Hope this helps in your decision making ^_^ |
:unsure: DVD err mind to tell me where u usually get ur dvd?
I want to buy those magics dvd with tutorials one
Cadbury - October 5, 2006 02:32 PM (GMT)
Most magic dvds are tutorial unless they specifically say they are performance only. I get them from suppliers like Murphy's and Ellusionist. Do let me or any of your favourite dealer know if u want to order magic goods.
DeviLFisH - October 6, 2006 03:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cadbury @ Oct 5 2006, 10:32 PM) |
| Most magic dvds are tutorial unless they specifically say they are performance only. I get them from suppliers like Murphy's and Ellusionist. Do let me or any of your favourite dealer know if u want to order magic goods. |
:wub: any website can let me view it?
or which one u recommand?
I like those where by no gimmick is used
purely on illusion one .
Cadbury - October 6, 2006 04:47 PM (GMT)
i recommend David Roth's Coin Magic made easy and Ultimate Coin Magic Collection. Also Michael Ammar's Introduction to Coin Magic is good too. Search for them at www.murphysmagic.com
DeviLFisH - October 6, 2006 04:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cadbury @ Oct 7 2006, 12:47 AM) |
| i recommend David Roth's Coin Magic made easy and Ultimate Coin Magic Collection. Also Michael Ammar's Introduction to Coin Magic is good too. Search for them at www.murphysmagic.com |
I own david roth one I think is vol 3
his video got many vol which one is more better?
Cadbury - October 6, 2006 06:19 PM (GMT)
Get the full set. I think his magic is a classic for coin workers.
DeviLFisH - October 6, 2006 07:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cadbury @ Oct 7 2006, 02:19 AM) |
| Get the full set. I think his magic is a classic for coin workers. |
I see
how much is full set?
next beside coins which magician dvd on bill is good?
bigbadwolf - October 7, 2006 11:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DeviLFisH @ Oct 7 2006, 03:50 AM) |
I see
how much is full set?
next beside coins which magician dvd on bill is good? |
if you are looking for bill switch, get the book
SWITCHit covers the different methods on bill switching, from using a TT to impromptu ones