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Title: Lessons From The Prestige
Description: points from the movie


Lamadude - October 20, 2006 02:31 AM (GMT)
I strongly believe in peformace more than the trick itself. In the movie, there are a feel lesson learned. Do post them here.

Lesson learnt

the principle of act 1, act 2 and act 3 make a lot of sense.

remember to apply it.

Act 1: The Pledge
The magician shows you something ordinary
Act 2: The Turn
The magician makes his ordinary some thing do something extraordinary
Act 3: The Prestige
This is the part with the twists and turns, where lives hang in the balance, and you see something shocking you've never seen before

example: show a normal playing card (act 1), make it disappear (Act 2), make it reappear (Act 3).

there are more lesson i learnt but in lesson now so better not post such a long post. so inputs poeple.

Adrian

GordonLi - October 20, 2006 06:24 PM (GMT)
Magic should not simply be a quest of secrets, but the focus must also be on the effect and presentation.

Magicians must unite! (:

LarryDK - October 21, 2006 04:24 AM (GMT)
That is so army..

Anyway, There is alot. The top 2 is mentioned. Some others like.

Obsession with magic. Yes, its great to be obsessed with magic, but over obsession might kill you, and your loved one with you. So learn to control over the temptation of good magic, learn to appreciate what you have now and learn the best out of it.

Always expect the unexpected. There are times when we thought we already won, but well, things don't always turn out in our way, do prepare for them and make room for mistakes, as human learn from mistakes.

Sacrifices. Making sacrifices for magic is not a bad thing, but hanging other people's life or animal's life over magic is no no. Cause its immoral to do it. In short, Don't do magic on the expense of other living things.

Safety, only do the effects until you test it over and over again, if you change the effect, test it again, don't tell yourself that it will work like before. It might not, and if it doesn't, it is hell.

There is no best in the world. Appreciate the others for creating the effect. Or making yours a better one. If you made a better one than the creator, tell him, swap pointers with him, in the end, you made a new friend, that might be willing to share his knowledge with you.

Larry

kennection - October 23, 2006 04:41 PM (GMT)
Hey. Jus my two cents worth.

From the movie, one of the main points i learnt, as the chinese saying goes "yi shan hai you yi shan gao"(there's always a mountain higher than the other). There's no need to be comparing to see who gets more audience, or who gives the effect, but we should jus know n put in our best in what we do.

So what if we do find out the secret to a certain trick rite? As the movie also shows in the scene of bullet catching. It seems sooo amazing when u dont know how it works. But, once you find out the secret, its seems so simple and does not seem as spectacular as before.

Hmm, n i guess a twin does help in many ways. :P

Ken

zomaziz - October 24, 2006 12:56 AM (GMT)
I have learnt that, even though you've not watched the movie, you'll still be able to learn from it. :ph43r: (don't kill me)

Anyway, I guess self-control is the most important. Too much of anything, even if its charity (or whatever), isn't good.

And I'm not kidding. I've yet to watch it. :(

yong_tianadeline - October 24, 2006 03:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (kennection @ Oct 24 2006, 12:41 AM)
Hmm, n i guess a twin does help in many ways. :P

Ahh!! Spoiler alert!!

Anyway, there are lots of lesson that we can learn from the Prestige. The best is to watch it yourself; understand and learn from it...

The secret doesn't really matter... its the presentation.
Presentation makes the trick.

A.

Ning - October 24, 2006 08:03 AM (GMT)
Lessons learnt from The Prestige... Batman wins Wolverine :P

I was reading my new book, Essentially Robert-Houdin, and came across an interesting name. Now, in the movie, Borden's magician title is THE PROFESSOR and we all know that the filmmakers are giving a nod to the highly respectable Dai Vernon, but who's Angier's THE GREAT DANTON?

There's a magician mentioned in Essentially Robert-Houdin called Dante the Great... who also lived in the 1800s, so could he be the link to Hugh Jackman's magician character? Hmm hmm hmm ^_^ You can read my review of the book, which I just posted.

The movie rocks though, the script is very clever and yeah... I think it highlights the evils of professional jealousy. If these professionals weren't petty, if they competed with themselves instead of against each other, they'd be much happier & successful people! It's about being content, playing nice, letting go.

Can't wait for The Illusionist to come out later this year... it stars Edward Norton! Woot!!! :lol:

Ning

Paradoxt - October 24, 2006 03:06 PM (GMT)
- Don't touch fences with " Danger " on it.

- Drowning is agony.

- Drunk people don't make good actors.

- Goldfish bowls are heavy.

- A simple wig and fake moustach can fool everyone.

Ning - October 24, 2006 03:21 PM (GMT)
...and who needs Electric Touch when you have Tesla around! :lol: Remember that scene when Angier touched him and the huge lightbulb lit up? I was quite tickled by that. Heh.

There's a fishbowl production taught in the new Robert-Houdin book by the way ;) But it's not the same as how Angier tried to do it... LOL

M.A.D. - October 25, 2006 12:30 AM (GMT)
Hey, i just watch that movie, people please take note is a movie, what ever we see just an stage illusion because only God can perform miracles; we are only doing some thing entertaining with tricks and illusions.

i do enjoy the show, but the last illusion they do, i just could not take it, they want to play God, only God can create people not magic or electic.

Larry had few good point there;

a) over obsession might kill you, and your loved one with you;
B) make room for mistakes, as human learn from mistakes;
c) Don't do magic on the expense of other living things;
d) Safety, only do the effects until you test it over and over again; and
e) Appreciate the others for creating the effect and make friend in all line.

and not forgetting Ning Jie pointer:- think it highlights the evils of professional jealousy. If these professionals weren't petty, if they competed with themselves instead of against each other, they'd be much happier & successful people! It's about being content, playing nice, letting go.

M.A.D. B)


muscleaxl - October 25, 2006 08:07 AM (GMT)
Lesson I learnt:

Don't complicate things when you don't need to. Simplest answer is (almost) always the best answer.

Why use a pass when you can use a DL? Why buy a machine from a maniac-depressive scientist that when you can use a d***le?

As Bruce Lee put it: "Simplicity is beauty."




deadsouL - October 25, 2006 12:12 PM (GMT)
Personally, the one lesson that stuck to me was:

"Once you reveal the secret to your audience, you become nothing to them"

Often times, we are tempted to reveal the methods of the simplest of tricks, in hopes of gaining popularity and acceptance.
In the end however, the spectators' perception of impossibility is what makes a true magician great.

Once they know your secret, you will have lost all your value in their eyes.

Lamadude - October 26, 2006 02:30 AM (GMT)
When i did this post i kinda forget some of the things they say, and the quote i am looking for is being post by deadsouL. thanks. I totally agree with the quote. sometimes, even to repeat a trick, could possibly reveal the secret to the spectator. then no magic for them. sob:(

Adrian

chanzian - October 30, 2006 02:47 PM (GMT)
Yup..the guy said 'the secret does not impress the audience, it's the tricks that you use the secrets for.'

Anyway after watchin the movie i was quite impressed that batman can really do some magic tricks..he did a ring roll on his finger tips when he was kissing scarlet.that wad really quite impressive..plus his rubber ball flourish and the downs palm.

You all think they actually went through some basic training?

Lamadude - October 30, 2006 03:45 PM (GMT)
I believe they did.

Adrian

wolfieci - October 31, 2006 04:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
I believe they did.



Hugh Jackman was on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno aired the Saturday before last on CNBC promoting The Prestige. He confirmed that he had some form of training by a pro magician and managed to demonstrate some magic by vanishing and reappearing a small metalic ball.

Lamadude - October 31, 2006 09:20 AM (GMT)
Wow! I hope i can see that episode.

Adrian

Lamadude - October 31, 2006 04:11 PM (GMT)
My friend showed me the briddle trick today and guess what, he used te the 3 acts in prestige to perform.

a learning point. i think for friends that have watch the show, you can actually showed them magic using the 3 acts as you performed.

Remember, Perforamance!

Adrian

bigbadwolf - October 31, 2006 05:02 PM (GMT)
its just a show..just because it involves magicians...

i don't find it very fantastic also..let alone "lessons to be learn" :rolleyes:

Lamadude - November 1, 2006 01:03 AM (GMT)
But even if it is a movie, I personally think it is a very good movie. We can just always go and watch, read movie, book etc. But it would be better to think beyond the stories, the plot and get soemthing interesting from it. Lesson don't just come in school books, but in everything we see, do and it is how we make use of what we have and learned from it. yeah! :D

Adrian




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