I've just saw the video demos of him using "mind powers" :P he made someone sleep just by talking to her on a public telephone! he made almost all the people in a shopping center raise up their hands!! and he even used a voodoo doll to make a girl stuck onto the ground....anyone knows anything about him?

hypnosis o.O ... the phone one i think it has nothing to do with hypnosis .. they fall asleep 4secs afther they pick up the phone.. how is it possible to hear something for 4 sec and you drop dead.. anyway hypnosis needs you to talk longer then 4sec lol..i belive he uses chemicles(thoes use to kidnap people with the hankerchief over the nose) applied on the public phones.. thats the only possible way .. the 2nd reason that actually makes sense is stooges :P
if theres a possible way to put someone to sleep in 4sec afther hearing it.. can you imagine how dangerous this is lol bringing a loud speaker playing your tape recorder blasting it while you walk through a shopping center watching everyone drop dead like flies haha

i can do it..
i call a frd: "Sleep now and i give you a 100 bucks"
that'll be faster than 4 sec :)

haha gooD one......
i think Brown is pretty scary......like vooDoo.....haha
is he evil? lol ... playing arounD with spirits? or is it phycology?

^_^

This guy is the frikin bomb.. one of a few people who REALLY stun me nowadays.. brings me back to the good ol' days where i was a noob and David Blaine made my jaw drop. Watched his stuff on the net and just saw his series on a plane flight.. incredible!

haha yah ... i agree ..... but i still think Derren Brown is quite scary hahah.....

:unsure:

I would love to see Derren Brown's performances........anybody knows where can i get his videos in s'pore? :huh:

TCS is SURE to bring him in. Just like Blaine. Good viewership ratings.

Brown can induce toothaches! Ouch!

Patience will pay of, I suppose, for everything else, there's always piracy. :)

I saw one of his programs on the plane to LA where he manipulated an entire orchestra into playing a tune the conductor mentally thought of. He also managed to convince some film student that he (derren brown) was invisible. Scary stuff.

C.

Derren brown is a mentalist, he deals with mentalism, but he calls himself a magician, cause he refuse to be associated with it. Its in one of the radio blogs where he was in russia. His list of performance been done before are as follows;

the famous Trick of the mind series and mind control.
Trick of the mind has a blowing 6 series. His been long in the industry.

Derren started his evolution back on the old tapes where his first few lessons of Magic was on VCR - they call it Derren brown's LEcture.

He did a break through study and finally found he was doing magic all wrong. Thus he went into mentalist, if im not wrong he studied hypnosis before. But most of his shows has nothing or i would say little to do with hypnosis. He deals with NLP which is what some of us are studying.

[ I believe not some, i think a few only.] Its the kind of studying to do with human behaviour break down into several parts. You can search out NLP over the net. Its not magical, its just learning human behaviour, how you apply is based on self. Its much more better than just going up to someone to do a normal routine. Its about understanding people and i think nowadays all magician [ i shouldn't say all, i would say most] tends to jump into quickly finishing their magic.

NPL = Nero Linguistic Programming.

Derren is not the only artist that deals with that, most of the successful magicians have that kind of knowledge, Chris angel lar or others.

Back to Derren, he even studied in Casinos on behaviours on Cruias.[ i dunno how to spell but pronouce as Cru - pre - As ] IE. the dealers.

You can find his famous teachings also on Devil's Picture Book on how he would influence.

Those of interest to know more can PM me, but i dun think theres anymore to it. I have never seen derren's vid in singapore. But all above mention vids, yes i have them but dun think im allowed to distribute. =]

Actually, he refuses to be associated with magic, not mentalism.

If any of you guys are interested, his material in magic is in his Devil's Picturebook video, which is available at his site. That's something that's been on my wishlist for a long time now.

C.

[QUOTE]Actually, he refuses to be associated with magic, not mentalism.

I'm not sure about what you said, I have seen lots of his video, and i dun believe he refuse to be associated with magic. If you are saying during his presentation, he doesn't even spell that out.

If you have seen all his vids like his lectures, you will know how he sells his point and what he believes him. Unless you have seen almost most of his vids out there, which i think i have, then probably one of us is watching a gimmick Derren. lolx. Anyhow i dun wanna argue with that.

Derren studies law in germany. He quits it and gains his tricks through one common vision. -Suggestions-

I would however agree to CLJ that Devil's picturebook is an excellent vid. But anyone who wants to try mentalist should probably get yourself ready that it doesn't always work. and most of the time around 80% it won't. Still if you are interested in the way he deals on situation, you can try to get the vid.

erm... what is his web site???
;)

http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/

Check it out, y'all.

haha ok thx
;)

And here I am, with a full copy of that VHS lying in my room.... You just never know, do you, Chris? :D

-Kev

Im thinking of getting d.b's Devil's Picturebook.
It deals more with cards right? And is the success rate of the tricks really just 20% as dimsum said??
Don't know if its worth...

sorry, anyone can help me in this?

for his card tricks, i won't say they are like GREAT, but good enough for you to use them.

er, also, you might wanna consider the difficulty of the sleights inside, quite hard.

as for the mentalism tricks.. haha. so far i've yet to fail in doing his tricks. really depends on your attitude and presentation.

the mentalism tricks are in this video right?

i dont mind see how he does his tricks, even though they might be difficult and hard to master. at least knowing how it's done, gives me something to learn. hehe.

thanks jeremy. have been waiting for a reply... :D

if you ask me, i really really love derren brown's stuff. In my opinion, he is the best card magician I have ever seen. It's a pity he dropped it for mentalism.

ZzaG

his mentalism kicks more butt.

I just got hold of the Devil's Picture book and I must say, its a rocking video, esp his 3 Card Routine, a long but very neat routine.

Something just to add on.. his new flash based site www.derrenbrown.co.uk is one creepy site, the shock tactics involved really shook me up.

It kinda gave me a minor migraine after a small 'scare' I dont know if it's just me or..

Explore around and read his whole biography and others, you'll hear what I mean ;)

From Britain comes a magician who is shocking to me... My impression towards Derren Brown is really different from other magicians totally! Its just his mind.. Very freaky feeling guy. More to the side of mentalism(+ cards) i must say, Derren's effects are great! Its a worth getting DVD.

His website is confusing, anyone know where to get his demo clip? :wacko:

i'm a big fan of Darren brown...devil's picture book is good, but i prefer Darren's non-card tricks...BTW, impromptu haunted deck is taught and i think this effect is much more amazing than coin thru soda can :P

i also like chan canasta who also has that derren brown feel to his magic

The phone thing can be done by using posthypnosis, or you hypnotise the person before hand. Anyway, many of the things derren borwn did were all using hypnosis. go get some booklets about it and you will understand. =)

JaJaBinksy,
Derren also said his favourite mentalist was Chan Canasta. That's why Derren's magic has Chan's style.

But seriously I'm puzzled. This thread is quite old already. Derren Brown is old news already, just like his DB brother David Blaine. Difference is, TV audiences know David Blaine, but not Derren Brown.

Then WHY on earth didn't the almighty TCS didn't bring him in? Like that we no choice must find DVDs and nonsense. It's been ages since Britain broadcast Derren Brown's things. Guess Singaporean audiences can forget about watching him on TV. What a shame.

I posted here ages ago, saying how TCS was sure to bring him in. It's true. Viewership rating would shoot through the roof.

But I guess it isn't so bad, at least we had Eva Longoria.


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I'd rather not have Derren Brown on television. His material is, in my opinion, something that should be intimate, something special- it's not a freak-out "WWWWWOOOOOAHAHAHA!!!" like Blaine or Angel, but rather something that just "clicks" in your mind and melts you inside.

Plus, it would suck if people started coming up to us and asking us to do Brown's material.

"Hey! Make yourself invisible!"

"Tell me when I'm lying... without you even looking!"

Yurdy :|

-Kev H

I think his showmanship is unparalleled nowadays. I bet that half of the stuff he does is accomplished easily using principles and techniques we all know, but that it's the fact he can make everyone believe he's some master hypnotist or knows human psychology so darn well he's never wrong (yea right....) which makes him so much more successful.

That's probably his greatest trick - making people think he's some master psychologist/hypnotist/mind-man. Heck, if I am that good in the NLP field or whatever, I'll just con my business partners all the time. Or raid the casinos around the world. There's surely more money in that... :P

But damn it's entertaining... I loved that zombie arcade game one...

It seems to me he has some very real skills in NLP and other kinds of mind influence. It's almost spooky - did you hear about his recent TV show "The Heist"? He influenced 4 business executives into committing armed robbery.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv_and_radio/sto...1678124,00.html

Unless those 4 executives were stooges (that would be lame), I doubt a common mentalist would be able to pull that off (even if everyone else involved in the set was a stooge).

wah sure a not? can influence people until like that? very scary manz...like using the Jedi Force leh. :lol: :lol:

I always though he looks like Obi-Wan :P

Well if I'm not wrong, these 4 were chosen after a lengthy process involving a larger audience, and over 2 weeks, subliminal messages were given to them.

This I believe is real psychological influence probably akin to some brainwashing techniques used on prisoners and stuff. What I don't believe is truly real is making people sleep through a phone in 4 seconds. B)

Plus he used the Stanley Milgram test to pick the most easily motivated individuals to commit the heist, or the ones with the most malleable moral standards. And hypnosis (stage of therapeutic) always emphasise one point - the patient must be willing. If the 4 were picked out of the streets to be in this experiment, they might not be so willing to try the stuff, but they in fact were part of a group that responded to Derren's ad and wanted to learn from Derren, wanted to please Derren, so the motivation and willingness to obey his instructions are there. I believe the army (not sure SAF does it or not) also uses such techniques to pick out soldiers who are suitable for more gruelling tasks and training that demands high discipline and obedience to their superiors.

Marginally, this is within belief, but look at how long it takes him to actually convince them to do it - 2 weeks. Plus all the exercises and preliminary tests to build up their confidence, and readjust their moral meter. It's arduous work man...

You know, having been a derren fan since his first TOTM series, derren mostly uses his NLP, hypnosis stuff as a red herring. And the fact that he has andy nyman on his team and he is on a tv show(can edit) means that you don't really know what's going on.

For example he does a pre-show method which is amazingly clever and then goes on to live to get a person to "think of something.. change your mind.. change your mind again... and stay with that" then goes on reealing the letters one at a time... After the applause.. he goes "while you were running the images in your mind at first.. you thought of.. a dog yes?" That's simply brilliant.

Yet as much as it looks NLP-ish.. its not. It's mentalism at it's best. With the NLP jargons thrown into the mix as red herring. Also, we don't see the pre-show work. How he may have pre-hypnotised the zombie arcade guy before that guy stepped into the cafe....? It all can be simply put together in two words.. "invisible compromise"; derren's most famous principle.

Nonetheless, I'm still a big derren fan. And hopes his shows don't come to singapore as I do copy some of his effects(shamelessly)...haha

It is due to him that I've explored the world of NLP and hypnotism... so I've got a lot to thank him for... look at this spot >>>o<<<< now sleep!!!!
haha

Syafiq

Jerry Sadowitz kinda brought him into BBC for his first televised show..

Tats what I read.

Not all his stuff are mental. some of them are just simple tricks that we forgotten. If you watch all of his shows. you'll notice some of them ain't mentalism. Like the one he did with two choice on envelope where a spectator points out to one she thinks contains the money.

Not all his stuff are mental, though i am not sure how many percentage are...if you hav read the book blink, you would have known that alot of professor achieved far more scientific results in manipulating the subconcious. And cold reading, is part of a lost teach that infuse something like past mind read from someone you dun know.

And indeed, the way he presents his stuff is charming.

Yup some of his stuff are not mental magic but pure NLP, pacing & leading stuff... One of my favourites is how he can get a volunteer to have her hand stuck to the table.. just like that.. no sleep induction.. just instant hand stuck to table. and after that he un-stick her hand and made her forget her name.... then he brought the name back la... it's kinda like that luke jermay, forget the card trick.

Well... Although I've tried that effect for so many times.. I'm proud to say that I've got 5 successful hands stuck so far... and only two forgot their names... well.. i've tried a many many times.. but these few successes keeps me motivated to learn more.

fiQ

I've just watched his Russian Roulette special and I have to say it's definitely baffling how he manages to know what word each of the last 5 selected people were thinking just by looking at their faces and having interacted with them for a length of time. Way cool.

BUT. Remember one of the episodes of Mind Control where he went to a boxing gym and through what he says was hypnosis, caused most of the boxers there to not be able to lift up a girl even though they could just a moment earlier? Some research has revealed that it wasn't hypnosis at all but just a very old trick. How old? Think like the 1940s...

I'd love to see this guy's library though.