ok i bought kaos, for many different reasons, 2 being which that there are many versions taught, the second being which because i thought of the exact same routine.

the effect: a killer10/10
the method: 9/10 the exact same method which i thought of, and there are couple of other routines and methods taught
clarity: 10/10 damn clear

ok the impromtu method is the exact some one i thought of (no kidding).But still i got to agree man the routine taught in the vid is different from mine, and but mine is slightly less angly, however, the total routine compared to mine, is much better, cause it prevents failure of the trick.
overall i would say its a good buy, teaching many routines, and two impropu routines, however i prefer sean beards method more, due to a fact that it looks more clean. just a little too expensive, the EVER BEST CTW. thats true. you SHOULD buy this if u have enought money, a great effect, i just hoped i thought of my routine earlier and submitted it to a company.

somehow i don prefer this kaos.
it is the exact same method i've thought of, but there is a dangerous weakness to it.

i would rate it 7/10

all i can say is if u have small hands , unless u can do T** P*** real good to skip this as u'll have problems

the teaching/effect and stuff is awesome and all, but like hihs has said there is a weakness to it


rating : 6/10

I would get indecent instead .

How many times must you mention "that is the exact method you thought of"?
3 times?

This is a very old thoery, even my poly mates (non-magician) do it with their lanyard 1 year ago.

Anyway, I still think that it is very smart.

most of the people tend to forget that this is an impromptou signed card through window. It's definately one of the simplest one I've seen although the theory is'nt new.

Most of us should be able to figure out whats actually going on in the video easily, especially if you are a frequent buyer of ellusionist's products.

The effect is balderdash :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I read somewhere... on a site thatsaid the effect is strong but if its shown to magicians or magic hobbyists , they would probably figure out.... i would like to see some kind soul perform it to me! :D

i dont think the price is really worth the effect. Small hands also can p**m mah.. but i think people's hand are usually slightly bigger than a poker size card..

Haha, I met Roland before, and I have no comments regarding his small palm having troubles palming cards. Haha. :D

It not 100% true that the size of your palm doesnt matter when you do palming. To a certain extend, yes, when you palm a card, accompanied with misdirection, you can escape even with a small portion of the card not concealed properly.

Anyway, back to Kaos, I find Kaos a very interesting effect. I've never thought of such a idea myself (unlike phsycofreak), and its definitely special and new to me. (or maybe I'm just dumb and phsycofreak's smart) This is probably a very practical CTW which is impromptu.. Finally, a CTW that I will do! :lol:

Hey guys, i actually got Kaos recently and i just finished watching it.
It's impromptu and i like it actually, i would probably show it to 1 or a few person . Although the method is simple but what makes the effect strong to laymen is how you present , you cna see how he performs its awesome. It's a good impromptu trick but theres only one move where there is difficulty which is already mentioned by the people here.

actually not a big deal if you had an idea on how its done, im sure many many other people thought of it too. It's like a trick where its good for laymen, you hardly perform to magicians also right.. lol.. its an awesome effect

Anyway daniel goes into detail and even talks about the subtleties and stuff. He gives many other variations but they're only slightly different. It's 33minutes and though my hands aren't big but it has a huge misdirection so it's still practical and i like this.

I'm going to get indecent and post a review on the other thread. So keep a lookout!

Another thing i like about Kaos is that you do not need to pick up all the cards after the effect! lol

Previous CTWs recquire you to throw the whole deck towards the window, leaving the cards on the floor. Yes it looks cool when you get the card through the window...but you will look stupid if you start picking up the cards -_-

yeah I was about to say as well, that Kaos makes you cool until you start picking those cards on the floor *looks pathetic*

I'm still trying to figure out another way of clearing up those mess. Maybe tell the spectator to "Leave those hands there!" or something? lolx

Anyway, I think Kaos is very much like the BIGGER version of WH's Indecent routine.

Has anyone thought about what it means for a magician to pull a card through a window? what is the meaning of such an effect?

It means that you can rearrange the molecules of the glass, make a gap and reach the other side of the glass....

You prove that you can do that by taking the card out from the other side of the glass.

yea while i think the effect for kaos loooks like it's on a bigger scale , if someone had to choose between indecent or kaos i would recommend them indecent , as it requires less skill and has less major flaws with it compared to kaos

Ya i agree man. I'm getting Indecent, Kaos is simple but it also has its flaws... :(
As what ronald said i also think that getting indecent over Kaos would be better although i haven't bought it. I'm going to post my review on the other thread.

:off: now we can start a new topic on Warning: by Daniel Garcia

I personally feel that if you get one of them, you get an idea for the other. i personally like KAOs. but i haven't perform it yet, so wait till i get some feeback form my perforamces. so yeah!

Adrian

it looks a lot better when you do it for normal audiences than when you do it for magicians. yes yes true that magicians can figure it out and all, blah blah. look at people like jay sankey. all his tricks are easily figured out if you're a magician but it still doesn't make his magic any weaker. if you see him perform live you will kowtow in front of him immediately, even if you know what method he is using.

Shouldn't you use P*****G instead of the actual term.
It exposure aint it. -_-

To be honest, i think it's a little bit crazy to spend $54 (not inclusive of shipping) for this effect. It's hardly new, and it's hardly revolutionary....

If you have $54 to spare, i would suggest getting a book, or a general DVD or....

You can attend the SMC Magic Chalet and BBQ! TWICE! :!!:
You will learn so much more in that 3 days than any DVD with only 1 trick inside. B)

What a way of advertising. :lol:

Anyway, i just received my copy few days back, and i found the technique pretty brilliant, but simple at the same time, with the strong misdirection supplied.

Nonetheless, not really worth the full price though. Could be a tiny little cheaper. <_<

[4/5]

I think the effect and method is ok....standard stuff....

It's definitely not a bad effect, but it surely overpriced at $54 for just this effect alone. You can get so much more for that.









Like the SMC Chalet & BBQ. B)

Sigh.. Hard to perform Kaos.. The major headache I have is that where to find a good spot to actually perform the routine? I don't particularly like to do street-magic to strangers yet. Perhaps we could do the effect while people waiting to pick up their Mac Drive Through.. I can't just lead my friends to some places that I deem suitable to get it going..

For Kaos.. You really really need to build it up and make sure you have great audience control when facing a mass.

hmm. I have the dvd. The effect is really good but there are some things you have to watch out for. And some methods are not suitable for some magicians but overall its 8/10.