are there certain types of cards that u cant really do it properly with? and how long do u guys take to master this?

I think postcards would be tough :D

this one took me a day. then again.. im not really into manipulation so it might be crappy. but i fool myself with this move when i look in the mirror!

i cant do at back palm lol ... the "window" inbetween my fingers are just too wide apart.. u can ask winder lol .. the gap is way too big for coin back palming or cards ..i have even some problem with edrnase colour change with my big pgap inbetween fingers

postcards too big :P but anyway i meant the material of the card....

heh managed to fool myself just now too... but keep thinking that it is exposed... dunno why :wacko:

my ring finger and last finger bump against each other, creating a gap also... but u dun have difficulties with other tricks right?

you can do a decent back palm after about 150-200 times.at first,do not add any movements or swinging of hands.jyst do it still....once u get the hang of it,then u add movements.basically,it can be done with all kind of cards that is not bigger than your palm

Use normal playing cards, after all, you'll be back-palming cards in the first place.

Next, bend the cards along the vertical axis so that it makes it easier for you to grip the corners with the gap between your fingers, then start practicing till you can bet the finger movements right. It's easy to get it into position, but lack of practice will cause the corners of the card to protrude in out of the gaps of your fingers when you complete the palm. Work on that.

When you're done and used to the movements, incorporate your hand movements. Took me a couple of days but I could do it since I was 11 years old. I have really small hands but it doesn't matter. You see, when you do a backpalm, the cards actually bend to accomodate the size of your hand. I can only do one card though. Can't do multiple backpalm and produce yet :P

Good luck!

multiple?? :wacko: as in a whole deck?

No the whole that but at least 15 cards lol.. If you wan to back plame whole deck you have to get manipulation cards lol.. :D

wow... 15 cards... tts damn thick... back palming and producing cards one by one... i bow down to the god who does that.

yeah. Even 5 cards is outta my league man.

Its possible lol althought I have not mastre it yet lol.. :D

I can do a decent one with about 25 max. 15 is more of a comfortable number. It is possible to backpalm the whole deck if it is a manipulation deck. Doesn't require huge hands or god-like features (if you're going to bow to the god who can backpalm 15 cards, you'll have a lot of bows to make..), just lots of patience and practise.

i like winder's way of doing it.... showed the palm, back, then palm again... seamless! :P