Title: Learning Dl
JirQUEST - December 4, 2004 06:15 PM (GMT)
which finger do u guys use for DL? my cousin told me to use thumb on side, but i reckon pple can see? what's a good way without revealing ur secret?
Moondust - December 4, 2004 07:20 PM (GMT)
That's one way to do your DL, thumb on the left side, but it looks a little fishy in my opinion.
I use either Larry Jenning's Snap DL or the Strike DL. The Strike is similar to the one you use, except try using your index on the right side.
Pseudo - December 5, 2004 01:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JirQUEST @ Dec 5 2004, 02:15 AM) |
| which finger do u guys use for DL? my cousin told me to use thumb on side, but i reckon pple can see? what's a good way without revealing ur secret? |
Don't worry... You will never get caught... I've never got caught even once. ;)
CLJ - December 5, 2004 02:55 AM (GMT)
I used to use Derek Dingle's double that he taught in his Complete Works of Derek Dingle set. I didn't buy it, but someone taught it to me a while ago. I switched to Dai Vernon's push-off after that. Richard Sanders also has a very neat sliding double in David Acer's Roadkillers that I used to practice a lot.Now I just do whatever goes with the flow in a performance.
Kev. also showed a crazy double that belongs to Paul Curry, and that was kickass as well. i also like have an affinity for aerial doubles nowadays, and so i also do stuff like Asher's diving board double, i've been practicing some of the aerial doubles from the bucks' Artifice, Ruse and Subterfuge in the Hands, and some other flourishy-double miscellanea.
As for doubles, PLEASE, please, please practice them 18 hours a day, and practice them until you feel CONFIDENT and when you feel that you have a solid double, before bringing it out into a performance. If you screw up, don't perform and practice even harder. If you screw up again, please, go and take up knitting instead.
C.
Moondust - December 5, 2004 06:12 AM (GMT)
Man, I saw some crazy sh*t they were doing in cardist.com with Lee Asher's Diving Board Double. I just love that one but I can't get it right :(
CLJ - December 5, 2004 08:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Moondust @ Dec 5 2004, 02:12 PM) |
| Man, I saw some crazy sh*t they were doing in cardist.com with Lee Asher's Diving Board Double. I just love that one but I can't get it right :( |
I guess you followed my link from the other forum, eh? ;)
C.
Winder - December 5, 2004 08:13 AM (GMT)
Bevel the deck a little and use thumb pressure, then strike on it and get a DL.
Moondust - December 5, 2004 08:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (CLJ @ Dec 5 2004, 04:10 PM) |
I guess you followed my link from the other forum, eh? ;)
C. |
Oh, that was your link? Hahaha! Yeah I guess so bro. Man, that was good... pure entertainment value. Even though I'm not into flourishes, I saw those vids at least 10 times straight!
Laughed my as* off when he friggin' kicked the cards after doing the Diving Board Double flick. Goddamn, is that even possible?!
JirQUEST - December 5, 2004 05:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Winder @ Dec 5 2004, 04:13 PM) |
| Bevel the deck a little and use thumb pressure, then strike on it and get a DL. |
what do u mean bevel?
Winder - December 5, 2004 11:16 PM (GMT)
Hmm... The deck must be a little slant ?
LOL, i am not too sure what words to use. Maybe next time i'll show it to you :)
JirQUEST - December 6, 2004 09:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Winder @ Dec 6 2004, 07:16 AM) |
Hmm... The deck must be a little slant ?
LOL, i am not too sure what words to use. Maybe next time i'll show it to you :) |
heh... TIA then :P
Moondust - December 6, 2004 03:50 PM (GMT)
Erm...if you look at the deck from the back view along the shorter edge, the cards should look like this:
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Does this help?
Mystical2004 - December 7, 2004 12:08 AM (GMT)
then after beveling shld look like the vertical sides from mooondust's perspective are slanted...
Moondust - December 7, 2004 03:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mystical2004 @ Dec 7 2004, 08:08 AM) |
| then after beveling shld look like the vertical sides from mooondust's perspective are slanted... |
Bro, I think my post was edited. Probably the Moderators think that it's exposure.
Oh, well, guess we'll have to wait for the meets to show how it's done.
JirQUEST - December 7, 2004 04:42 AM (GMT)
i thought i understood moondust till mystical said it was slanted :/
Mystical2004 - December 7, 2004 10:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Moondust @ Dec 7 2004, 11:34 AM) |
Bro, I think my post was edited. Probably the Moderators think that it's exposure.
Oh, well, guess we'll have to wait for the meets to show how it's done. |
heez... me too... i wanted to draw out using underscores, then all become perfectly aligned... i think is not edited... is automatic...
JirQUEST - June 3, 2005 07:01 AM (GMT)
sorry to up this, but after months of using oz's style, it's getting to be a hassle using it. i saw brad christian's style of pressing the thumb on it, and i thought it was great, but thing is, it seems so vague for me to pick up.
i thought i might have finally understood moondust's explanation. so bevel and use index to pick it up? is that what it's like?
also, what dvds can i get to practise other DL methods? currently considering greg wilson's double take... might be ordering from ning, but keeping my options open for now. anyone?
GordonLi - June 3, 2005 09:39 AM (GMT)
well, choose a DL that looks natural and suits u,
for me, a regular strike or hit double works well, looks good and i like it.
Alexander - June 3, 2005 11:32 AM (GMT)
I feel that the best ways to have a get ready for a DL is a pinky count, i do that alot, and its very useful as there are no funny movements. And, if you wanna use the strike, sometimes you will miss, so i dont use it.
Lastly, the easiest way out, is rifle the back of the deck.
heartsofclubs - June 3, 2005 02:37 PM (GMT)
I use the most obvious ways..Kinda working with reverse psychology.. They think you're faking them with that obvious move of prob doing a DL.. so they ignore that move... lolx
[Ling] - June 3, 2005 04:47 PM (GMT)
For now, I'm trying on Lee Asher's Diving Board Double. ^_^
Daren - June 8, 2005 03:37 AM (GMT)
lee asher's diving board double looks gr8 ~! bloody convincing as well. go check out his website for more info on it at www.leeasher.com :)
Huron - June 8, 2005 12:47 PM (GMT)
My favourite dl is Lee Asher's Diving Board Double. I use it all the time. Try the strike and the push-off double as well. Get Wilson's Double Take. It's a must-have.
Huron
Blackwing - June 8, 2005 03:11 PM (GMT)
I bought 5 card stud a long time ago just to learn the diving board double. The thing is, it doesn't teach how to do it. Anyone knows where to learn it?
CLJ - June 9, 2005 07:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Blackwing @ Jun 8 2005, 11:11 PM) |
| I bought 5 card stud a long time ago just to learn the diving board double. The thing is, it doesn't teach how to do it. Anyone knows where to learn it? |
Yeah, from
Asher himself. He's got a whole manuscript on the DBD, with both the acrobatic and non-acrobatic versions, its applications, and even this (from what I heard) crazy effect where it's used to produce the 4 aces, from behind the back, and the deck disappears at the end. I don't have it, but for what it's worth... don't be me and go and buy it.
C.