Title: What's The Best & Worst Product You Ever Bought?
Ning - September 14, 2004 03:28 AM (GMT)
a question for all you Magis out there...
1) What's the worst gimmick/ trick you every got, where you were left swearing and kicking yourself after you realised it was a lame investment?
2) What's the BEST item(s) you ever got and swear by it?
Hope to hear your responses soon! ;-)
CLJ - September 14, 2004 04:17 AM (GMT)
The absolute worst products I have bought are Sylvester the Jester's SUspended Dimension dvd. Seemed like a product that he thought of in half an hour and produced on the dvd. It was a horrible idea for a topping device. Others include Rodney Reyes' School of Hardknocks. The only good thing I got out of it was that now I now how NOT to perform after watching Reyes manslaughter the effects he performs. :D :lol: His effects were ripped off from other people (Trifecta is actually Joey Burton's and not his, his Glock 52 is Ken Krenzel's Bullet Trick, Short Stack is a minor modification of Syd SEgal's Further than That, his Coining Copperfield was, well, crap, as was his ICU ambitious card routine), and his (lack thereof) of presentation was god-awful. :D He only relied on exposition in his performances, and every 5 seconds he does some fancy flourish that confuses the spectator instead. (And his flourishing isn't even good in the first place) He comes off as arrogant, unlikeable and irritating. Simply put, the dvd sucked. :D
The best products that I've seen are videos like Greg Wilson's On the Spot, David Regal's the Magic of David Regal dvd set, and the product that I'm waiting for the most now is of course, the Dan and Dave System. :)
Ning - September 14, 2004 04:32 AM (GMT)
WOW!
CLJ... you impress me! You sure are one kickass Magi! ;-)
You surely must knock the socks off the grrls! *grin*
magi81 - September 14, 2004 10:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (CLJ @ Sep 14 2004, 04:17 AM) |
The best products that I've seen are videos like Greg Wilson's On the Spot, |
That, i agree :)
JamKid - September 14, 2004 11:02 AM (GMT)
which of the effect u performed the most from the vid? i like the all around coin vanish and one that u throw a coin into the air n it changes into another (dime to nickel?) effect, cant remember that name...
magi81 - September 14, 2004 11:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JamKid @ Sep 14 2004, 11:02 AM) |
| which of the effect u performed the most from the vid? i like the all around coin vanish and one that u throw a coin into the air n it changes into another (dime to nickel?) effect, cant remember that name... |
the lipstick one...
haha, obviously to girl :)
btw, i think i missed out on the worst thing i bought..
It's the bat, not saying it's bad in the sense, but, i'm saying, it's bad cuz it can't fit into my routine :)
ren8585 - September 14, 2004 04:37 PM (GMT)
LOL ive tried making one myself too and it suck pretty bad
Ning - September 14, 2004 04:42 PM (GMT)
let me guess... it kept snagging on your sleeve huh? it's actually much harder for grrls... you know why :-P
i heard some people using alternative methods (besides using the usual long sleeve method) like via belt loops, etc. for better control.
Hmmm... Any bat/ raven users around? *looks around the room* Appreciate your comments or suggestions! ;-)
magi81 - September 15, 2004 12:51 AM (GMT)
Seems like no one uses a bat?
haha...
Ning - September 15, 2004 02:57 AM (GMT)
...hmmm... enlighten me here pls, what's the major differences between the bat & raven? are they simply similar products, just created by different companies and marketed differently????
thanks you guys... :-P
JamKid - September 15, 2004 03:28 AM (GMT)
they somehow work in the same principle, but not the same product...
can use for the same effect, but different methods.
magi81 - September 15, 2004 10:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JamKid @ Sep 15 2004, 03:28 AM) |
they somehow work in the same principle, but not the same product... can use for the same effect, but different methods. |
I dun hav a raven, nor do i plan to get one.
but, i cld roughly guess how it's done....
Well, if u r really that rich, try m5 pro...
haha, but, it weights abit less than 1 kg...:)
Magicdow - September 21, 2004 01:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ning @ Sep 15 2004, 10:57 AM) |
...hmmm... enlighten me here pls, what's the major differences between the bat & raven? are they simply similar products, just created by different companies and marketed differently????
thanks you guys... :-P |
I have the bat, I had the Raven deluxe but sold it. they are made by Chazpro. It uses the same gimmick but different method.
The Bat is more for PK effects whilst the Raven is more for vanishes and changes. There are certain angle problems when using the Raven. Its a cool vanish though.
makanmonkey - September 25, 2004 04:28 AM (GMT)
One of the "worst" effects I got was a TT. Dun get me wrong I love TTs but it was my first and I paid 10 bucks for some hard plastic, off-colour TT that had "Made in China" embossed on it some more... good thing is that I started off with that so I had to work hard to conceal the secret!
Chris.
illusionist - September 28, 2004 01:53 PM (GMT)
Hmm for the worst i guess the raven seldom use it and now on my shelves as a display item lol...
For the best hmm I guess is my invisible deck lol the only gimmick deck I use alot lol.. Cos I do improtute card and coins trick all the time lol so no much gimmick... :ph43r:
Kevin - October 4, 2004 10:19 AM (GMT)
Worst:
Blue Crystal. It's more of a collectors' item, so it was kinda gimmicked to the core. Sold it off last year, so it's off my back.
Best:
Tricks, more tricks, and enough with the tricks already! David Regal inspired me PLENTY through this video of mayhem with cards, half-cards, 9 cups and balls, crazy plots and amazing patter. 2 thumbs and a TT up ;)
-Kev
Huron - October 4, 2004 05:16 PM (GMT)
WORST: Bottoms Up. A horrible manuscript teaching the classic card under glass. NOTHING NEW and teaching only one sleight which can be much better substituted with a one hand top palm.
BEST: CARD STUNTS and ON THE SPOT BY GREG WILSON & ON THE LOOSE BY BILL MALONE
These are by far the best videos I've EVER purchased and these two magicians have inspired me GREATLY. Do check their stuff out. Absolutely mindblowing.
Huron
Daryl - October 8, 2004 10:02 AM (GMT)
WORST:
Keocuts and a Gerry Griffiths LUCKY SEVENS. OmG..
BEST:
Lennart Green, Ray Kosby, Hit the road, the SYSTEM(Soon to be) and maybe CTG
iewgnod - October 27, 2004 01:25 PM (GMT)
Worst: Dream Vanish
Best: Underground
Brian Will- Extreme
lol
Winder - October 27, 2004 01:59 PM (GMT)
Best: Underground
Worst: Guy bavli - Bending minds, bending metal -_-
exohordon - October 27, 2004 02:29 PM (GMT)
Worst : Dream Vanish & Underground.
Best: Paul harris's close up kinda guy and art of astonishment vid.
Best gimmick deck: stolen cards by lennart green although juz received it and yet i am loving the rainbow deck.
BuaYa - October 30, 2004 04:26 AM (GMT)
WoW. Some people say that UNdergrounds the best, whereas some say its the worst. How the hell did THAT happen?
Worst: Blue Crystal. Definately.
Best: Constant Fooling 1 & 2. Close up and personal (a friend gave it to me for my birthday. Thanks to him.) The first David regal series (thanks to solomon) and the PPP series. Don't forget cradle to grave. Good stuff.
Magicdow - October 31, 2004 12:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (exohordon @ Oct 27 2004, 10:29 PM) |
| Best gimmick deck: stolen cards by lennart green although juz received it and yet i am loving the rainbow deck. |
Its a non-gimmick deck and it is indeed very cool. Idiot proof trick for people like me.
exohordon - October 31, 2004 04:31 AM (GMT)
Its kinda a gimmick deck since it can't be handed out for examination.
Dun u agree?
Anyway juz wanted my 100th post and ur it.
:P
Magicdow - October 31, 2004 04:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (exohordon @ Oct 31 2004, 12:31 PM) |
Its kinda a gimmick deck since it can't be handed out for examination. Dun u agree? Anyway juz wanted my 100th post and ur it. :P |
I disagree as the deck can be examined at the end of the trick. I'm refering to Stolen card by Lennart Green.Its the method that is clever, not the deck.
exohordon - October 31, 2004 05:55 AM (GMT)
Had to modify the deck a little to do repeat performance
kryptikalism - November 2, 2004 06:40 AM (GMT)
Magicdow - November 2, 2004 10:39 AM (GMT)
Its a plastic box made by Tenyo in year 2002. The box enable a coin/ring to penetrate a clear blue plastic in the box. This is more of an optical illusion, I would'n say its fantastic nor a bad item. I think its cool though.
kennection - February 4, 2007 03:40 PM (GMT)
Worst: Naughty Silk Trick (duno from which maker). Quality bad, and item plasticky and all.
Best: MY SET OF LINKING RINGS. Heh. Others include Balloon School, Fibre Optics, Ulti-rose prop, n it goes on...
Broderick - February 10, 2007 02:33 PM (GMT)
Worst:the raven
Best:loops
Jcy - February 11, 2007 03:55 AM (GMT)
The worst product i bought is an M5 system. It requires a long sleeve shirt , which i dont have and dont really like wearing as it is cheesy to hackers.
The best product i bought was a DVD on Stigmata.
Cadbury - February 11, 2007 04:22 AM (GMT)
What do u mean "cheesy to hackers"? Sounds weird :wacko:
Jcy - February 11, 2007 06:10 AM (GMT)
The audience (especially teens) will ask u to roll up ur sleeve and then they will touch around
Cadbury - February 11, 2007 06:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jcy @ Feb 11 2007, 02:10 PM) |
| The audience (especially teens) will ask u to roll up ur sleeve and then they will touch around |
Those are hecklers not hackers -_- . It may be true but depending on how u do crowd management, u can divert their attention if they try to touch u. Or just run away haha.