Hi everyone, i'm interested in making some expanded 50 cent coin [s with some gaff makers overseas (good quality + famous). I'm wondering if anyone is interested in getting the [ ?

According to a magician friend of mine, he has a 50 cent [ which cost him S$120! I could possibly get each [ done and sold for at most S$95, or lower if i can get enough orders. Hopefully less but since the volume is small, i'll try my best to negotiate for more discounts. :unsure:

I hope those who are interested can indicate here so that i know the demand and how many i should make. Please feel free to post your questions or pm me. I'll probably take this to the marketplace thread when its confirmed.

PS: As you know there are 2 types of 50 cents, one with the ridged edge and the other is smooth. Which do you think would be better as a [ ?

wah $95 for a shell. Very ex leh. Furthermore, singapore coins are not very visual and eyecatching compared to the American coins.

I thought duplicating singapore coins making gaff ones or part thereof
of any part of the coin is illegal?

What more ive heard that a heavy fine will be imposed or even a jail term may occur to a person who has been caught in possession of a singapore coin that has been altered with.

Even the jumbo 50cents is illegal.
What more this is also a type of PIRACY if im not wrong. Making or duplicating any part of Singapore curreny is ILLEGAL. Even trying to make stuff look like the singapore currency is also illegal.


So beware when purchasing and performing if you have this gimmick.
And 95 dollars for a shell, thats too expensive the cost price is only a few dollars or cents.

Shells are very expensive if you get them custom made or made by a top craftsman. If you take a look at the shells that Todd Lassen or Jamie Schoolcraft (the best coin gaff crafters) sell, the prices are about there.

I highly doubt that you will get arrested for gaffing a Singapore coin. If they want to arrest you, there's to be proof of criminal motive. I think the police have more important things on their hands like catching drug traffickers and syndicates that forge currencies. At the very very worst, they're going to confiscate the coin.

And really, if the [ is really really well made, you can [ over a coin, put it on another person's hand and he won't realise it.

Btw, I think the ridge edges are better. But I think it's better for you to consult the crafter.

If you possess drugs but you tell the police that you have no intention of selling nor eating them. Im sure the police will just confiscate the drug.

No sence right? Anw i dont believe that the police force is corrupted.


Placing a shell over a persons hand, im sure one could tell which is a shell which is not due to the weight difference and the "feel" of a coin no matter how well its made.




Permission to Import and/or Manufacture Merchandise/Product containing a Photograph, Drawing or Design of Singapore Currency


Permission to Import and/or Manufacture Merchandise/Product containing a Photograph, Drawing or Design or part thereof used in or on any Singapore Currency Note or Coin would still require MAS' approval.

You might want to check more about it and save a little bit of skin if you get caught or reported

I would rather get the jumbo American coins they are catchy.
And i know where i could get it 9-10 cheaper then the jumbo Singapore coin. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

For those interested, I am selling Jumbo 3" Halves for $6 a piece.

Drugs make a poor analogy.

Take for example, the law that criminalises homosexual acts. Although the law is present, it is not enforced. Rather, the greater purpose of the law is to uphold the norms and expected morality in our society.

Likewise, the idea of clamping down on forged or defaced currencies is to protect society from criminal activities. The targets are frauds who are trying to make unlawful gains from others.

I had a friend who brought in handcuffs and a knucklebuster from Thailand as a souvenir. The only thing that happened was that the items were confiscated.

By law, it is possible that he could have been arrested and fined and perhaps even jailed because the law states that such items are illegal. However, he was not as he has no association with any forms of illegal activity (eg. black triads).

I highly doubt that the law will make strong persecutions against magicians who are using gaff coins for performance value.

Also, I said placing a [ with a coin in it on a person's hand. Not just a shell. As long as no attention is drawn to it. I don't see why a person should even have any suspicions.

My sentiments. It will be made by one of the top craftsmen in [s and the price isnt set by me though.

Although Half dollars are bigger and shinier perhaps, local coins will seem to "connect" better with the audience. Besides, not every trick uses a [. However, with a [, u can do a lot more with local coins. 50 cents is our largest coin... if you dont consider the super old $1 or 50 cents which is large... and rare -.-

Anyway, its going to be a very limited and single run. I'm sure a [ will aid u in a lot of matrixes, and other coin tricks which utilise a [ . U surely wont be showing a [ to anyone anyway, even after or during the trick, audience will not know of the [.

By the way this isnt about jumbo coins... :off: :P

It's funny seeing people use [ in one sentence and then typing the word itself in another sentence.

Actually i thought we shouldnt say it cos it is exposure itself? I think Aloy mentioned it in another thread before... so i avoided using it

Lol. My bad. Sorry. Just that I type what I think verbally so I forgot to [ it all the way.

Think you misunderstood my meaning Cad.

At least Jlowhy understood what I meant.

Maybe mods would like to edit the word out.

No, i did get it... i also noticed the word but hopefully the mods will change it soon.

Is it possible to show us the image of the coin first?

Depending on the demand.. i would get the maker to send a pic of the first shell he make before proceeding to make the batch.

However, if llamalamer's sale carries on, i dont see a point bringing in more, which i may incur some unsellables...

other den the expanded half, are you able to bring in others gimmick coins

Mod's note. You have been suspended for 10 days for posting rubbish to increase post count. You will be barred from using the marketplace also.

lamerlamer hasn't gone thru with the sale of his expanded [?


cadbury what are ur plans at the moment ?

hey cadbury i am interested in expanded [ of 50 cent coins,

but 95 bucks thats freaking expensive, why not try to communicate with SAM and try something,

i thought the price would be less than 20 :P like US

hey.

Why dont you try outsourcing? Try somehwere like india or china ask some jewellery maker to do it. It should be much cheaper that way


Csjoshi

You need to get someone who is established for such work. Otherwise, you'll probably throw the end product away. I speak from experience. Generally, you have to be careful if the price is cheap.

I have various [ and some of them is not even fit for practising. So, you can either get a good one now or buy a cheap one and buy a better one later.

^ +1 totally


even Tango magic ( established coin gaff makers ) don't make really good [

and for stuff like expanded [ which are precision gimmicks it is very important that the fit is good

You are joking right?

cadbury , lamerlamer's sale is defintely not carrying on ( talk about premature ! ) so could u please consider doing this and letting us know the final final price ?

Hi, sorry for being away.

US gaffs are manufactured in bulk and there is demand for them all over the world.. simply because it is cheap to manufacture in bulk!

If someone needs to custom make their own coin, it will be MUCH more expensive.

I'm currently in Hong Kong at the moment on exchange. I'll re-liase with my contact once i get back. Hope to get more people interested before going ahead though.

I'm interested in the E[. I understand that the pricing will not be similiar to US gaff coins, but 95 is still a tad too expensive for me.

Yeah i understand. I wish it could be much less, but since it is a custom make, this is the price they charge...