After learning about Richard Osterlind's stack, I realized that it was a fabulous concept. The only restriction was that you have to rely on mental calculations. Although Osterlind did teach various methods of making it easier to do the calculations required, it still did not eliminate the need to be quick in calculating.

This new instructional vid from Ellusionist seemingly has all the advantages of a stacked deck yet none of the abovementioned weaknesses. Check this out:

Joyal Stack

What do you guys think of this?

personally dont think this DVD is good.. There is a formular to remember 26 cards.. Will that work too?

remembering 26 cards is something like a partial stack?
won't be remembering juz the top 10 cards or so be better?

Apparently, it seems that there are techniques to learn partial stacks and full deck... and it claims that no mathematical calculations are involved using the Martin Joyal stack.

I have learnt the Joyal stack and I can assure each and everyone of you, that you can learn it within the 6 hours. I myself have learnt it within 1 hour, and practiced to perfection within another. A total of 2 (two) hours.

On the cover, the book writes about having a 'brain inplant'. Yes, after reading this book, thou shall feel like you've had a brain inplant. Its THAT good. I strongly advise all of the serious magicians who don't know a stack, to learn this one.

Thanx a million bro! I've been waiting for someone to confirm how effective this is! Alrighty then, it's next on my wish list!

Can you give a little more info on the product? thanks

What do you want to know? I'll try to answer your questions.

Hey just been to the site.. I think it's not bad yeah? However, there might be too many.. I dont think we get to utilise them during our magic that often.. It then defeats the purpose of learning the stacks.

What does 'there might be too many ..' mean?

Corinda has a stack formulae which i learn within 10 minutes. I dun think its that hard to remember.

I seriously think i would rather spend money on buying Corinda's book.

thats my comments

How thick is that book?

Corinda's book comes up to a good 431 pages [about there]

It covers 13 exclusive chapters being

Swami Gimmick
Muscle reading
mnemonics and mental system
predictions
blindfolds and x-ray eyes
billets
book test and supplement
two person telepathy
mediumistic stunts
card tricks
Q and A
publicity stunts
patter and presentations


each chapter is concrete and right to its point.
I haven finished reading the whole thingy...its really crazy.

I also dunno where the hell you can get it now, you guys can try looking for it at kino but i doubt it.

=]

About the Joyal Stack, can you actually Straight cuts the deck ?

Ya. If you're smart enough.

huh what about the previous posts?

what about above? <_<

hmm... havent u been to the ellusionist link.....
-_-

Hey Winder! It's January already! How's about it? Wanna share the book?

I'm still interested, so let me know if you still are.

Hehehehe.. I wish i could, but i don't have $$$$. Maybe try sharing it with mac :)

Hmmmm, stacking deck ? I have tried and learned I dont know how many methods,
finally I realize that the best is still the simplest
One day, you will also learn that everything is in the presentation and how you could convince your audience,
now I choose the simplest stack , so that I could focus and concentrate on the audience,
please don't bother about fooling other magician, in the end of the day you want to entertain the layman ... ( and they are the one who will ever pay your bill if you are good enough :-)
My 2 cents worth thought

Pam

Simplest stack. New Deck "Stack". B)

It works...SERIOUSLY. Ask Jamkid. B) Just dun fan it out...

Excellent, never thought about this before, I am sure it will work,
it is just a bit "too" dangerous
I will try...

Hahaha i tried it on a magician with a year experience and he started a conversation with me.

Magician: Erm.. Nice... You forced the card on me ?

Edwin: Erm.. I ribbon spread the deck, how did i force you in a ribbon spread position.

Magician: True.. True.. So whats that ?

Edwin: Mind reading :)

*Walks away*

Oops me and my conversation mood again. Hahaha ~

eah man. New deck stack rocks.