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Title: Miser's Dream
Description: Resources and variations?


Aloy - December 18, 2004 07:06 AM (GMT)
Anyone does Miser's Dream?

I've actually only performed it once for a children church to pretty good response and i really enjoyed it because it sits well with music and the dance like style of it.

Most of my moves for this is from McBride's Coin Magic of this effect with a few simple variations. But i really dun like the coin penetrating the bucket part of it, coz, to me, it totally doesn't make sense and not compatible with the "principle" of the effect. Awkward.
Anyways, does anyone do this effect too? And can anyone recommend me some good resources/variations on the effect and/or performances of the effect?


Cheers

Magicdow - December 18, 2004 07:15 AM (GMT)
Jim Pace has a close up version in his video. You might want to take a look at Slyvester's Pitch as well.

kryptikalism - December 18, 2004 03:58 PM (GMT)
it's mostly a stage effect right?

what's the jim pace version like, magicdow?

Magicdow - December 18, 2004 10:58 PM (GMT)
He uses his pocket as the pail for the coins. I saw the video a few years back and I can't really remember the exact routine. I think you may need to classic P*** 7 coins.

Aloy - December 19, 2004 06:19 AM (GMT)
7? heck, i struggle with 4.....

where can i find the video do you know?

zinally - December 19, 2004 07:14 AM (GMT)
There's a version for miser dream which can be done like a professional but using sleight of coin for an idiot (Meaning too simple).
Effect:Magician show an empty hand the produce the coin then he put in the bucket- Thecoin sound when enter the bucket . He do it several times up to ten coin.Lastly he throw the bucket it change to confetti.

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Magicdow - December 19, 2004 07:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (zinally @ Dec 19 2004, 03:14 PM)
Effect:Magician show an empty hand the produce the coin then he put in the bucket- Thecoin sound when enter the bucket . He do it several times up to ten coin.Lastly he throw the bucket it change to confetti.
Want to know how it done PM me only true magic lover please..

I think you're refering to Bob Solari's Miser's Dream. This is idiot proof magic, easy to do. His version's ends with a jumbo coin.

Morphine, sent you a PM.

Ning - December 20, 2004 02:43 AM (GMT)
I think I got a similiar one from Hocus Pocus earlier this year during their crazy 25% sale... the routine's pretty much seems the same, you pluck half dollars from thin air and put them into the tin cup (audience hear the "clink") and you just grab more coins from the air until you're satisfied but everything in the cup changes into one jumbo coin in the end.

Compared to the standard version using sleights, I agree with Magicdow that this one is an idiot proof version but still needs practice to look right ^_^

ReDeFiNe - December 20, 2004 04:04 AM (GMT)
oh...thats a pretty cool gimmick set and good idea for the sound in the cup...

I love the misers dream and do a routine of mine using 5 coins , a bucket and 1 5" coin for finale...

Now trying to work on a new misers dream involving some spring bills and money productions...creating a theme around the routine...

The coin ladder is one really great addition for a misers dream routine...Collectors Workshop has one of the finest but so EX!!!:)

A coin ladder is next on my wish list...hee...

Best,
Jeremy

Jimmagic - January 13, 2005 08:59 PM (GMT)
you might like to use p****** coin for miser dream like what I did in the past. It's thinner and you can palm more coins. By the way, I've got a close-up miser dream routine using a transparent glass. Did I just inspire some of you?

M.A.D. - January 14, 2005 06:29 AM (GMT)
Jimmagic

A close-up miser dream routine using a transparent glass. wow it really inspire me! Show us lai, it will be cool and powerful............... B)

Jimmagic - January 14, 2005 06:59 AM (GMT)
[QUOTE]A close-up miser dream routine using a transparent glass. wow it really inspire me! Show us lai, it will be cool and powerful...............

sure next time if we happen to meet.

Ning - January 14, 2005 09:29 AM (GMT)
Yeah! Sounds good Jimmagic!!! Would love to see you perform that next time! :lol:

bean - March 15, 2005 10:06 AM (GMT)
ever try doing miser's dream wif dlite? :P

makanmonkey - March 16, 2005 05:15 AM (GMT)
ERm... it won't be miser's dream if u don't use money.

bean - March 16, 2005 06:54 AM (GMT)
using a p***** coin is harder xD

GordonLi - March 16, 2005 12:34 PM (GMT)
i'll try to comment on your post for the benefit of others, even though i see no reason why u have to post "ever try doing miser's dream wif dlite? :P" and "using a p***** coin is harder xD". esp the 2nd post, which adds nothing to our discussion or body of knowledge.

anyway, a miser-dream like effect with d'lites is standard, that how most d'lite routines go anyway, pluck a ball of light with the LH, transfer to RH, put into pocket (and keep repeating). such production sequence is very entertaining, but, the handling is different from that of a standard miser's dream. so again, i do not see the link...

and yes, duh, using a p***** coin is harder...

makanmonkey - March 16, 2005 04:22 PM (GMT)
well yeah the effect will be similar but it's called "miser's dream" coz of the money from nowhere...

GordonLi - March 17, 2005 04:07 AM (GMT)
yes, effect is similar but handling is diff.

d'lite is 1 hand grabs the ball of light in the air, transfers to the other hand, which places it into the pocket.

miser's dream (the standard one) is 1 hand grab some coins in the air and place it into the bucket.

trickster - May 11, 2005 12:32 AM (GMT)
heard of the miser's dream before... p****** 7 coins... hardwork...

i thought miser's is something like performer throws the coins into a bucket and spectators heards sound and then something great happens...
can anyone tell the full effect? forgot liao

GordonLi - May 11, 2005 05:16 AM (GMT)
the effect has been sufficiently described in this thread, and there are many different methods to the misers dream. bobo's book for example already lists a few. some ppl can add jumbo coins/many many coins/etc to make the miser's dream unique.

lllusion112 - May 16, 2005 01:26 PM (GMT)
p****ing 7 coins?!?! in one hand?!?! i dont think it is possible. unless you are somewhat "obese" (copied from Jay Sankey, Revol Coin Magic, no offence gordie :P), jkjk.

maybe should try somthing else instead of p***ing the coins.

GordonLi - May 17, 2005 07:48 AM (GMT)
hmm, i just tried, and i can CP 7 coins, using a bevel to help me.

but, im sure 7 coins will be easier and can be done with other forms of P.

BlUeCoWz - August 3, 2005 10:58 AM (GMT)
it is one of the few tricks that is once in a lifetime.. i saw jeff mcbride perform it in IF magic... wow... i tell u it was so good, cos it gives u this sense of childish bewilderment... ya..
i liked it when the audience after a while help u produce oso..

fume - August 5, 2005 06:49 PM (GMT)
i learnt my version of miser'd dream frm jeff mcbride, it dun require any hardwork p******.. :) hope this helps

GordonLi - August 6, 2005 08:41 AM (GMT)
ok, i shud add as well that using special P-coins, u can CP more (eg. from Nielsen).

Jeff Gan - August 8, 2005 10:32 AM (GMT)
I'm new to coins, but I thought u'd D**ns P*** the coins instead of CP?

its easier to DP 7 coins...

someone correct me if i'm wrong

GordonLi - August 9, 2005 08:33 AM (GMT)
imo, its not much point to DP 7 coins unless for productions.

at least for what i know, there are more applications for CP than DP coins.

and a note concerning censorship (not targetted at anyone in particular), i think as long as its decipherable, we should use acronyms instead of censorship, especially when u censor the word CP, a layperson can easily decipher it, but not when its in acronyms. in this case though, i guess it doesnt do much harm, but its always better to be safe.

Jeff Gan - August 10, 2005 02:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
imo, its not much point to DP 7 coins unless for productions


but miser's dream is a production, i thought that's what the whole thread was about :)

anyway, always thought miser's dream was a cool routine, esp done to music.

GordonLi - August 10, 2005 05:32 AM (GMT)
hey, ur right. we kinda got sidetracked alittle on this discussion.

not sure abt u guys, but i find it quite difficult to product coins from DP. CP much easier and practical IMO.

Magicdow - August 10, 2005 06:07 AM (GMT)
Finger P*** would be a lot easier. With Ramsey subtlety, the hands ca be shown "empty".

M.A.D. - August 10, 2005 06:21 AM (GMT)
after i had learn the FP, DP, MDP, CP, BC, FC & TC. i will learn this Miser'd Dream from Jeff McBride.

M.A.D. B)

Jeff Gan - August 10, 2005 06:27 AM (GMT)
the DP will give u the impression of an empty palm. U cant do that with a CP.
U can wiggle your fingers too as if preparing to catch a coin.

But CP'ing 7 coins, wow.

GordonLi - August 10, 2005 09:33 AM (GMT)
u can wriggle ur fingers in CP too. and i realised that i earlier meant EP when i said/read DP. my apologies.

and yes, ramsay subtlety is one of my faves...

Larry Barnowsky - March 23, 2006 05:52 PM (GMT)
I do a Miser's Dream in the hands with no props, pails, gaffs, or steals. It's done with real heavy silver dollars. It's called Coins From Vegas and can be found in my book 21st Century Coin Mechanics. It's done with pure sleight of hand using all original moves. Check out the book and some sample video clips of sleights at:


http://www.geocities.com/larrybarnowsky/

http://www.geocities.com/larrybarnowsky/movieclips.html


Aloy - March 23, 2006 06:56 PM (GMT)
:blink: Magicdow, you gotta check out the videos man...

Amazing stuff Larry, your book sounds really good, and i've found some great reviews about it. B)

Would you mind making a little introduction of yourself in the Intro sections for those of us (myself including) who are not familiar with your background?


Cheers

Larry Barnowsky - March 23, 2006 07:19 PM (GMT)
Be glad to.

Larry :D

Magicdow - March 24, 2006 01:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aloy @ Mar 24 2006, 02:56 AM)
:blink: Magicdow, you gotta check out the videos man...

Amazing stuff Larry, your book sounds really good, and i've found some great reviews about it. B)

Would you mind making a little introduction of yourself in the Intro sections for those of us (myself including) who are not familiar with your background?


Cheers

I've seen the video before and it looks very good. Thanks for sharing.

Larry Barnowsky - March 24, 2006 01:35 AM (GMT)
The reviews of my book have been very favorable and very helpful in spreading the word about its existence. The Magic Cafe has the most extensive reviews so far. You can see for yourself at:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtop...45&forum=110&22

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtop...0264&forum=3&20




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