I think Out of This World is one of the first few tricks I learned. Didn't really like it then because of the "setup". I thought who will be so stupid to miss the "setup" being done right under their nose. But after attempting to try it on my friend, I realized "hey, it could be done...!!" and it became one of my favourite trick.

Ok.... anyway, the questions I want to pose to you guys are:

1. Halfway through the trick, when you need to alternate the colours, how would you say that? I mean, sometimes it felt a bit abrupt to suddenly say: "Ok stop! Now to make things interesting.. we'll alternate the colours..." Is there a way to make this part sound logical and flowing?

2. Is there a way to let the audience shuffle the deck and yet able to pull this off?

For Question 1, you may want to slow the spectator down slightly earlier before the colours alternate, and then suggest he deal "just a couple more", so that it won't seem so abrupt. The rationale for alternating the colours is fine as long as it sounds logical and that you don't make a big deal about it. Try out a few different lines and see which one flows better in your performance.

For Question 2, I think there are impromptu versions of OOTW around, though they don't use the entire deck. To some they feel this lessens the impact of the effect, and to others not going through the long-drawn process of dealing the entire deck is their preferred choice.

All in all, the patter (for question 1) really also depends on the premise of your presentation. i.e. whether you present it as a test of ESP etc.

Question 1 -"I guess you are bored of this order, why not we make things more interesting, and switch the colours instead? Human senses has special ability cross function.....Lets try it on you?"
or
"Lets try with the other hand, now you will sense completely opposite, I'l prove it.."

Question 2 - After the set up, ask spectator to cut roughly half, ask them to shuffle, n u shuffle the other half, and u do some false cuts after that.
Half way through the trick, you can also ask them to shuffle the remaining pack to make it more difficult


Out of this world plus a prediction at the end, maybe 1 or 2 cards goes wrong and is predicted in a sealed envelop?

Or maybe, let them go wrong a few times, then ask them to concentrate and use whatever esp patter/ presentation, think, focus, feel, receive the senses, etc and deal card 1 by 1, rather than just asking them to plainly deal cards down into 2 piles.

I guess this could strengthen the effect, my 2 cents.

hey.

My two dollars, Im not really so comfortable telling you this but hey magicians share! Here it goes.

1. Tell them about how some people have opposite intuition like they think it black but it turns out red, consistently. You can also let them shuffle at the second turn.

2. Simple. two hints. deck ******. and removal of clothes. Works like a charm if you milk it well. If youre into magic long enough, you'd understand the hint.

CSJ

There are a few deceptive ways to set up the deck. For me I use the angle seperation.

Out of This World can be impromptu if you know how to do the set up infront of your audiences.

There are ways to do this without asking them to alternate the colours.

For me I just let them deal everything without switching the orders.

Yes, you can.

For me, I either do the 1 two seperation or angle separation.

I'll let them shuffle the deck.

I'll say that card sharks have the ability to remember the position of every single card just by looking at them once. Then I said I will try to test their memory.

Show the whole deck to them, and asked them to remember the order of the cards. Do the move as you show them the whole deck.

Proceed on to Out of this World.

Yes, the classic Paul Curry's Out of this World requires the unnecessary (in my opinion) detail, unless of course, you can make it really relevant and motivated. Though I doubt any excuses made can be taken seriously by the audience, but I guess it can work.

The version of Out of this World that I do does not require an alternation of the colours mid-trick. It's one of my favourite effects, though I don't do it often owing to the setup required. Some of you may have seen me do this before.

I can't remember whose version this is, I've tried looking through my books but I can't seem to find it. I have a strong hunch it's Larry Jenning's (since I've lent the book out and therefore can't verify it).

I think Lennart Green shared his version of Out of this World, although I can't remember it. What I remembered was that it required a handling that I found odd.

Derren Brown has a fantabulous handling of OOTW in his Devil's Picturebook DVD. Requires quite a bit of guts to perform, but I think it comes the closest to real magic as far as this effect is concerned.

As mentioned, Lennart Green's famous angle separation move is a good way to perform OOTW from a shuffled pack.

another amazing one is by David Regal. It is in one of his DVD, just cannot remember the name now. if i remember correctly, he even separated the suit. but he did not use a full deck to create that effect. and it is totally impromptu.

Adrian

Thanks for all the input... keep it coiming please!!

Anyway, I do use the angle separation without any problems. I was only thinking is there a better way to do it "more" impromptu. Eg: letting the spec shuffle it beforehand.

To Matt: I've seen Derren Brown's version, his allowed for shuffling but only for overhand shuffle (according to him). The problem is S'poreans don't usually use overhand and it requires more extensive handling compared to the classic version.

To Ace: How you let them carry on w/o alternating the colours?

To Adrian: Yes, good idea for question 1.

For others. I will try to find the sources you all recommend.

Ok, I'm trying out a way, inpsired by a friend, see whether I can get it work.

What is angle seperation? Is it the one with the jogging or the culling?


ZiAn

Think it's more jogging than culling....
Think culling is more technical...

To Ace: How you let them carry on w/o alternating the colours?

Lennart green have a way to do it without asking the audience to alternate the colours. You might want to check it out.

There is another way to do it w/o asking them to alternate the colours, but you will have to use your own deck.

I think most Singaporeans do a hindu shuffle which, to me does not mix the cards very much differently from an overhand shuffle considering the mechanics. Give it a shot.

Quote: 1. Halfway through the trick, when you need to alternate the colours, how would you say that? I mean, sometimes it felt a bit abrupt to suddenly say: "Ok stop! Now to make things interesting.. we'll alternate the colours..." Is there a way to make this part sound logical and flowing?

Answer: I mostly follow Derren Brown's method. On changing colour, early on, after spreading the cards, I tell them that they should do it one card at a time and that they will understand why later. then casually just mention that they can take the cards not only from the end, but anywhere... after they have already cross into the final colour. Just make it a casual off-the-cuff remark. After that, i will ask them if they know why I ask them to put it a card at a time... I give the explanation that I wanted them to go with their instincts and not put whole bunches of cards.


2. Is there a way to let the audience shuffle the deck and yet able to pull this off?

Darren brown lets them shuffle all the time... never had a problem with that.

:)