Title: Muscle Pass
angkiki - February 5, 2008 01:52 PM (GMT)
Does anyone have any idea where can i pick up a good muscle pass ?
yong_tianadeline - February 5, 2008 03:13 PM (GMT)
Hey :)
Jay Noblezada has got a good DVD all about teaching Muscle Pass only that is great for beginners to the techniques of muscle pass. You might want to check that out. I have read before that there are other DVDs that teaches the technique as well, but they don't just cover muscle pass.
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bigbadwolf - February 5, 2008 03:37 PM (GMT)
Just CP a coin and squeeze. That's how I learnt mine.
j00cantseeme - February 5, 2008 04:11 PM (GMT)
Theres also a dvd, Anti-Gravity Coin by Kris Nevling. In my opinion, you dont need a dvd to learn it right. Its just a knack. Yeah, CP and squeeze! That's how i got mine too =)
Ive got an average muscle pass going but what are the applications?
bigbadwolf - February 5, 2008 04:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (j00cantseeme @ Feb 6 2008, 12:11 AM) |
| Ive got an average muscle pass going but what are the applications? |
Akira Fuji's Jet Coins?
Magicdow - February 6, 2008 01:14 AM (GMT)
Shoot Ogawa has some applications on it. Its a very painful process to learn this move.
angkiki - February 13, 2008 02:13 PM (GMT)
Hey guys sorry for the late reply. But since most of the people here or practically everyone is from Singapore , then may i ask what coin is best to do a muscle pass with ? 50 cents seem a little too small.
j00cantseeme - February 13, 2008 02:23 PM (GMT)
Well, there's always US half dollars to muscle pass with. I started out with half dollars. SG 50 cents are too small in my opinion. If you're starting out muscle passing, try to get those poker chips. They are lighter and bigger in size, therefore easier to get it right. Then can go to US half dollars. =)
angkiki - February 14, 2008 08:36 AM (GMT)
Okay then i shall start off with poker chips.
But im pretty curious , is it logical to use american half dollars for performance ?
Its like wouldn't people be wondering away why i ain't using singapore 50 cents ?
muscleaxl - February 14, 2008 06:18 PM (GMT)
Firstly, it's not exactly a very painful process. Yes, it will cause some discomfort when you first start but once you get the hang of it, there should be no pain. Unless you try to do 100 muscle passes at one go.
Secondly, yes, start with half-dollars or at least bigger coins. I started with Malaysia 50cents.
Thirdly, no, I have not met anybody who questioned about using half-dollars. In any case, you can come up with the typical story about "being a coin collector." Afterall, half-dollars are rarely used (think only in casino), even in the states. Anyway, if you are quite competent with coins, I think you shouldn't have problems using Sing coins.
qureyoon - February 15, 2008 12:48 AM (GMT)
@axl: Malaysia 50cent ?! :o That's a bit heavier than the States one right ?!
I use the states for train, since i think if i used the heavier one, then later when i use poker chips will be very easy :P
Anyway, my hot spot for the M.Pass are a little bit off from my regular CP, is that right ? Or should it be the same spot as my CP ?
Thanks ^_^
angkiki - February 15, 2008 12:06 PM (GMT)
Well apparently i learnt that the coin is suppose to flip
over when you squeeze it in attempt to do the muscle pass.
But apparently , the coin just gets squeezed by my palm
and nothing else , any little tips ? Or are tips
not allowed ?
ChanZiAn - February 15, 2008 01:10 PM (GMT)
How to muscle pass a poker chip? It so big that you can't even CP it.
ZiAn
jeromefang - February 15, 2008 05:12 PM (GMT)
Woo...a MP thread. How can I miss it... :lol:
angkiki: Personally, I don't think there is like a guarantee sure fire method to get the muscle pass down. This is becasue everyone's hands are different. The texture and condition at different times of the day, the bone structure, the size etc will have a part to play. There are many DVD out there that teaches the MP effectively but at the end of the day, its your determination. I heard some who take years and some who took months. I personally took 2 weeks to get it to a considerable height.
Your situation of now the coin being squeezed is fine. Don't despair, just keep practicing it. Because, it takes time for the muscle to develop before the coin will pop out. All I can say is to get your CP right first. Otherwise the foundation is not there. As for the right size of coin, it's really subjetive. It all depends on what you're comfortable with. Just don't start with a small coin. A Singapore 50 cent and above is fine. Once, the technique is down, you can MP almost any coin. Even a Spore 10cent coin.
qureyoon: The malaysian 50cent is not heavier than the Kennedy Half Dollar. The Kennedy is still heavier. The Malaysian 50cent is probably about the same weight as the old Sprore 50cent. Using a heavier coin to train will indeeed make lighter coins easier but for poker chip, I have to tell you that it's rather different as the poker chip is big and the area of the palm used to MP the chip is different as well. There are those who can MuP a poker chip but not a Half dollar.
ZiAn: To CP a poker chip is possible even if you don't have huge hands like Lennart Green. It's just the technique and positioning. MP a chip is not as difficult as you think. You can already MP 50cent and Half-Dollars so a chip is possible for you too. I'll show you next time... :D
angkiki - February 16, 2008 06:22 AM (GMT)
Wow ! Got a pro muscle pass-er here . Haha i still practicing hard.
I recently found the old Singapore 50 cents. Haha so yea im practicing with
that for now.
muscleaxl - February 18, 2008 03:52 AM (GMT)
Yeah... Jerome is a muscle-pass junkie. Come for the gathering, he will show you 1001 ways to use a muscle pass.
Anyway, my CP for the MP is the same as my normal CP.
Try to train by passing the coin from side to side first, instead of trying to "levitate" it. Once you get that down, it is easier.
angkiki - February 18, 2008 10:48 AM (GMT)
Oh okay . But is there any proper way to teach the muscle pass ? Because its quite impossible to self-teach because i don't think im getting anywhere near a
flip ?
muscleaxl - February 18, 2008 12:25 PM (GMT)
Huh? What you mean self-taught?
I think you already know the "how" for muscle pass, it's just a matter of practice.
joeltay81 - February 18, 2008 08:07 PM (GMT)
With 15 mins of practise a day, roughly how long would it take to get a decent muscle pass going, say, 10-15cm vertical height?
Shade - February 19, 2008 01:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (angkiki @ Feb 18 2008, 06:48 PM) |
Oh okay . But is there any proper way to teach the muscle pass ? Because its quite impossible to self-teach because i don't think im getting anywhere near a flip ? |
| QUOTE |
| With 15 mins of practise a day, roughly how long would it take to get a decent muscle pass going, say, 10-15cm vertical height? |
Why don't you guys bug jerome this Saturday at the CNY gathering? :) He'll be more than happy to demonstrate and share a few tips. I think this is one of those things you got to SEE. Heh.
Jerome does a MEAN MP - probably the scariest I've ever seen so far. He'd MP anything that fits into the palm of his hand. Trust me; he's that good (or crazy; go figure).
Of course, he'll tell you it's a 'knack' thing. Then he'll show you how to get the 'knack' of it down right!
Shade
jeromefang - February 19, 2008 06:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
Why don't you guys bug jerome this Saturday at the CNY gathering? He'll be more than happy to demonstrate and share a few tips. I think this is one of those things you got to SEE. Heh.
Jerome does a MEAN MP - probably the scariest I've ever seen so far. He'd MP anything that fits into the palm of his hand. Trust me; he's that good (or crazy; go figure).
Of course, he'll tell you it's a 'knack' thing. Then he'll show you how to get the 'knack' of it down right! |
Woo... Thanks Shade for the compliments. I never knew I was that good or crazy hehe... I was just playing around with the move that's all :P
And Yes, it's indeed a knack thing. Once you get the knack down. You can MP anything. Ok almost anything... :lol:
joeltay81: It's very difficult to associate a particular time frame as to how long one should practice as every individual's learning curve is different. All I can say is that before you try going for vertical height. You should practice to MP horizontal across. Slowly as you progress, you'll be able to MP vertically.
angkiki: As Axl has mentioned, I believe you have the concept down. It's just practice. Be patient, be very patient. It takes time for the muscle to develop. So just keep practicing. This Sat if you're coming for the gathering, I can give you a pointer or two.
bmt - February 19, 2008 06:20 AM (GMT)
Jerome.. i want to see you MP one storey high!! hahahahaha...
Anyways, my two cents would be to practice with a mahjong chip instead of coins.. it's much easier to see the mechanics of the MP with something lighter like a Mahjong chip. it still took me like a month or so to get it down though.. but if you keep working at it you'll get it... eventually.. =))
cheers
Bryan
angkiki - February 19, 2008 08:40 AM (GMT)
Jerome : Yea i am going this sat and maybe you could give me some
pointers . I can't MP a 50cents coin though =(
BMT: Yep i practice with mahjong chips but my only worry is that you are unable to MP an object that weighs heavier like a coin ?
bmt - February 19, 2008 09:35 AM (GMT)
like once u can MP a mahjong chip then move on to poker chips or a half dollar i.e. anything heavier and large enough... 50c coins are harder cos they're smaller. but after a while you should be able to do it... it's really all about practice.. =))
angkiki - February 19, 2008 12:53 PM (GMT)
Okay ! Then i shall just carry on with doing it with the mahjong chips first =)
Achmed - March 7, 2008 04:44 AM (GMT)
I have the DVD but after almost a month of trying I still can't get it right. Maybe it is because I do not
have much fats at the base of my palm?
bigbadwolf - March 7, 2008 08:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Achmed @ Mar 7 2008, 12:44 PM) |
I have the DVD but after almost a month of trying I still can't get it right. Maybe it is because I do not have much fats at the base of my palm? |
Haha. Just keep trying. How much fats can a palm have?
muscleaxl - March 7, 2008 05:36 PM (GMT)
No, you no need too much fats. My hands are also very skinny. The most important thing is to have a good classic p.
Just a month of practice? Well... I think I took a year. So no shame there.
Achmed - March 8, 2008 07:00 AM (GMT)
Poker chips should be good I guess, 50 cent coins are WAY too heavy.
Maybe someday when I grow up, I would make "THE PALM VIBRATOR" used to
shoot coins upward.
bmt - March 8, 2008 11:36 AM (GMT)
i don't think it's the weight of the 50cent coin that's the problem. poker chips definitely weigh more than a 50 cent coin man. it's just that 50 cent coins are small and that makes it hard to MP. but with practice i'm sure it can be done.
PzYcO - April 15, 2008 07:57 AM (GMT)
i sucks in m.p but heard from some pro muscle passers, they said to train from left to right , and when the distance increase, then train by the height. hope it helps :)
after few months of training, my muscle pass still sucks -.-
bigbadwolf - April 15, 2008 11:33 AM (GMT)
Is the muscle pass a move of any use? Or is it just to show how high a coin can hop from your palm? (where's the wow factor in this? It gets exciting at first, but now I just goes "So?" when I see it)
Coin workers, care to share? ^_^
christo - April 15, 2008 04:36 PM (GMT)
I use MP to make coin vanish under spectator's eye
Currently training a 3 fly routine with muscle pass, with only 3 coins, Taught in Shoot Ogawa's muscle pass dvd
For those who really interested in mastering this s