Media Corp going to aired the show this Friday (I thinK) at 10:00 pm.
The show consisted of a wide range of mentalist tricks, most of which were nightclub-style acts that would probably never be taken as serious evidence of psychic ability.In the program, one of the fake psychics demonstrates spoon bending, which is then revealed to be a trick.

So Any Protest to be made to Mediacorps. I have email my view. :angry: :wacko:

they reveal tricks? ;)

Its on Sunday. And I don't mind.

yup its on sunday not friday ... i think they are revealing IT . i saw a preview of it showing a standing matchstick on palm

WTF.....IT and spoon bending.....there goes my arsenal....

Spoon bending and IT only?? Why stop at just that? Might as well air David Blaine's Street Magic again on Channel 5 and follow up with some cheesy commentator clumsily demonstrating how his tricks are done. That'll help them clock more airtime ratings. After that, they may wanna film magic shows and broadcast them on cable under the category "documentaries."

Hell, instead of having JC Scum perform the ACR for President Nathan during the PSC, this year they might as well get a heckler beside the performer just for kicks.

Thumbs up to Mediacorp.

Muthafarkas...

It's absolutely fine and great to broadcast magic shows on TV, but why the heck mus they reveal the secrets?! Tarnishing the art of magic like David Blaine's specials hasn't done enough damage...

Giving out the secrets of IT and spoonbending will end our livelihood very very seriously. Major dent in our art... Damn them to eternal Hell, for stupidity and revealing the secrets so publicly... :angry: :angry: :angry:

Dang dung and dirt.

one by one the great tricks with killer reactions are exposed and exposed. I'm personally furious at the spoon-bends.

It's all for the viewership ratings. You'd think after the death of SPHTV there'd be hardly any dirty stunts the stations'd pull on each other. Well yeah. Now MediaCorp is pulling it on us.

Dang dung and dirt.

Haha, i can't seem to get this tongue twister correct.

yeah ... there was once i was watching ... i think starworld....they were showing ....um i not to sure about the name but its a mask magician ...Oh iook breaking the magicians code....yeah

there was one line they said that made my whole family laugh as they were watching...

the line goes " And that was how that trick was done . and magicians call them "Magic" "


haiz..


B)

Wuahahaha. That's so lame and completely dumb.

actually can call up mediacorp....really i dun bull-shiting.........i remember some time back mediacorp was abt to telecast d masked magician, & someone called in to explain it was not ethical to telecast exposure......n d program was taken off......


yujie

Yeah yujie, sign a mass magicians' petition for that purpose. That will be great. Just a suggestion.... ;)

If someone can prepare something, we can get everyone to sign it tmrw and we will fax it to them.

Cool. Is drawing block papers or A3 ones good enough? Since we are faxing it over, so the paper can be just white. I can bring a couple of that A3 papers tmr, no problem. ;)

JC Scum? Was that on purpous...?

All I can say that is fine for them to telecast the programme. You guys should be learning new stuff and even for spoon blending, there are a few method and presentation. Without these programme, there's no meaning for people to invent new magic and nobody would really care for brushing up their skill.

You want my opinion? I don't like exposure shows, but I don't think they are hurting magic much. But this has got to be single-handedly the most ridiculous remark I've EVER heard. A magician advocating exposure of magic. Urgh. You ain't no magician if you're encouraging that.

This claime is ridiculous, ridiculous, even MORE ridiculous, and stupid. Oh, and totally pretentious as well. So basically, magic is nothing more than exposing something, then finding new ways to accomplish certain something, then having it exposed and again and again, and all the while, this is taken under the pretence of along the lines of "encouraging creativity", and this is just a cycle that continues on and on and on. If you really think magic needs exposure as motivation to create new stuff and perfect skill, I've got a suggestion for you: go take up knitting, because guess what:

It doesn't.

C.

Fully agreed upon, CLJ. Think about it, Mr. Jimmagic, let's say you know a trick. Then someone or some shows exposed your newly aquired trick that you have practised for like weeks and paid $25 bucks for that. How would you feel? Think about that, Mr. Newbie. B) It's ethics. Just like you can't kill someone when you like it. It's morally wrong from a magician's point of view.

Hope you will understand and recify your judgements. B)

Aye, fellas, but hey, Jimmagic still wears the "newbie" badge. But you gotta take that off one day, and you must have meant your post in honest encouragement.

Just learn something from this. Magicians have to respect the magician's code, and that's simple enough.

NO excuse, NO excuse is good enough for the exposure of any secret. The exposure characteristic of any person or company will get them booed to the ends of the earth. Ever wonder why the Masked Magician wears a mask?

There are people magicians respect, and then there are the spoilers who destroy the moment of magical mystery by revealing everything. Is that really important? In the first place, people like, and want, to be deceived, that's why everyone is interested in magic, and that's why we are all here, to band together. to share and to learn. Start braodcasting secrets and the SMC will become MinuSCule. Magic loses its meaning when secrets become public knowledge.

But back to the show, are we really game for the petition? That sounds really good, but we have little to challenge them with since they stand to score a lot of viewership. Still hungry for viewers after they gobble channel U, huh? Viewership will lead to muchos money.

Whoa fellas... Cool down a bit ok, alright? ^_^ First off...

CLJ - I'm sure nobody here likes TV "specials" that show exposures to millions of uninitiated people around (i.e. laymen!!!) I think Jimmagic shares that same view like the rest of us, but he's probably trying to say that well, it's truly inevitable... someone out there (Mr Hollywood producer with big fat bucks) would want to do such shows because of it's $$$ potential. So that's what I think Jimmagic meant by saying it's "fine"... yes, pls, give the benefit of the doubt... :P

Vamp, CLJ - Yeah, totally understand how you feel about paying hard earned cash to learn an effect, spending a long agonising period of time to perfect your moves and then... damn... the sh*t hits the fan. Still, it's inevitable really, these programmes... then, there's also hecklers out there just trying to prove that they're smarter than everyone else (or, magicians everywhere else) and post these 'secrets' online on their websites to the world. What can we do about that? Email them to cease, yeah, but if they don't... what can we do? Hack their website? ;)

...We just have to move on. Staying sour or upset doesn't help anything really. I think Jimmagic's actually right when he talks about us improving and learning new things and all... maybe we shouldn't jump on him, give him the benefit of doubt, can people? :P

Don't start a flaming war just cos we have our own different point of views and well, freedom of speech :) Everyone's entitled to their views... that's why we're all different and our school of thought, unique in that sense.

Vamp - I'll say, please bring the stacks of paper to tomorrow's event anyways, those interested in signing for the peitition can write their names ^_^ i've got pencils for everybody... it's nice of you to offer to that by the way girl, positive karma points for ya!

CLJ - relak lah sayang! :lol:

Jimmagic - Come join us tomorrow for the event? Don't think you've been to one of our meetings before? We can all get to know each other better! :)

Its... GOOD!? What the hell is this guy saying!? He must be a MaskMagician fan or something cos I can find a quote with the exact same meaning on a masked magician website... Either that or he himself wants to know how to do those stuff...

whahaha..i think so..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hey Guys,

Yes indeed that magic exposure shows like these hurt magic badly...years ago mask magician exposed illusons like Zig Zag, Sword Basket, Bases etc..and those were stuff that I actually own!!!Yeah I am furious about it..but after a while...people just forget it cause after all when people watch magic..they just want to see a great act..rather that really catch you out..it really depends on how you perform it...Till today i still performs the sword basket to great responses...People will be wondering how issit possible???

I feel rather than really coming up with new tricks due to these exposure..maybe we could just re-invent the performance of the magic..like the standard example of the Linking Rings...people say there is a ho*e..but hey, try performing Ninja ring routine..then u tell them..There is a hole..they will think thats not possible cause the routine is too strong...Speaking from my true experience...

Upgrade Your Magic Guys!

Jeremy

Ok guys let the finger do the talking e-mail to Mediacorp
mediacorp e-mail

And State your view.

Jimmagic is no newbie. He is into magic before you were born. I think what he meant is, it doesn't really hurt magic if its exposed on TV. There'll be new methods to accompolish the effect. Look at Valentino about 8 years ago, he did all those exposures on TV, I don't think many people still remember it. The exposure actually did some good, it inspires me to be a magician. But hey, I still don't like exposure.

I've got a tough question for you guys. Would you expose magic for $1m?

Alright alright, we shall all cool down. ^_^ Yeah, I'll bring some paper tmr.

If you have the standard than I'll consider offering the contract, if not don't answer my lame question.

This is just a hypothetical question.

Really? It really doesn't sound like it to me at all.

That was his exact quote, which is entirely different from

I think what he meant is, it doesn't really hurt magic if its exposed on TV.

His implied meaning (or at least the way he phrased it) was that magic NEEDS exposure as motivation to come up with new material and to refine people's skill, without which, as he put it, there would be "no meaning" to magic, which is so pretentious. That sounds a hell lot like advocating exposure to me, and saying it's entirely beneficial to magic, which, you would have realised, isn't true. I agree that in some weird way that exposure does test magicians' creativities, but it isn't something that is needed to accomplish that. If you were to read an older thread, you would have seen that I did make a point that exposure on TV doesn't do magic much damage. But that doesn't mean that it should be encouraged.

If you think about it, what Jimmagic said was pretty contradictory, because with his implied meaning (exposure = god's gift), if everyone in the world knew about a pass, or the secret behind spoon bending, and exposure was constantly advocated and broadcasted to every single person on this planet every single freaking day (which would probably never happen, but that's the general idea), there would be no reason to invent new magic. Why invent something when the idea is to expose that new material again, and "push us" to come up with something new again, when that would just be exposed again? Be realistic.

If Jimmagic really didn't mean the entire jumble of text I typed up there, number 1, I'm sorry, and number 2, learn to phrase what you say so that people don't freaking misunderstand you! ;)

C.

Magicdow, you don't find anything wrong about exposing magic for money? Its ok with you?

Since when did I say exposing magic for money is not wrong? I only asked a hypothetical question.

But what I can say is, things come and go. What goes around comes around. A few months down the road, people will tend to forget the exposure.

Meanwhile, I'd still like to sign the petition.

I hate this shows. Put me in the petition if one does go through.

Same here.. Get people to sign it tomorrow, i be the first and the largest.

I second that...JimMagic is a Professional Performing Magician..A good friend of mine...

Apologies. I meant "Newbie" to the forum, that's why I said 'badge'.

Aiyah, small problem. Lets stop bickering and get on with life.

Heh heh. Ok ok. I guess I took the question as a 'proving my point' rather than a 'think about it'. i apolagize. Peace?

peace

Hey CLJ, I'd never encourage to have more exposure show but what can you do when mediacorp are going to telecast? I think you must be mistaken for what I written earlier. I guess only ning understand what I mean. I'm not good in words so if anyone would like me to clarify, I'll be going to the competition tomorrow and I'll be happy to let you know how I really feel.

Great stuff, now we all understand each other. :)
No masked magician or anything like that among us.

Yay...peace on earth B)

I've encounter so many problems where by people bought magic VCD from pasar malam and really expose most of my routine but when time goes by, people tends to forget. You may have spend $25 on a trick but the trick that you learn will be with you forever. You might not be doing it now but in future where people tends to forget, you can show them again and people might think that is a new trick.