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Moondust - January 15, 2005 05:19 PM (GMT)
Hiya all. I need help...again :P

The classic effect of folding a bill into half, and then into quarters (and eighths sometimes), each time showing the hands empty...and upon unfolding it, changes to a bill of a different denomination.

Any good recommendations on sale for this effect? I'm hoping that I can do this without gaffed bills or TTs.

What do you people suggest?

Thanx for your attention. ;)

GordonLi - January 15, 2005 05:24 PM (GMT)
i cant think of any ungimmicked ones which are good.
and why not TTs?

Kevin - January 16, 2005 07:11 AM (GMT)
Sean Fields has one called "C.R.E.A.M" that's quite visual (looks a bit like Sanders' Visi-bill), and it doesn't use a TT. It uses something else, though... so if you like it, burr. If you don't, bargh.

David Regal (I love this guy!) has a gaffless, gimmickless, fully-thought out routine called the Origami Bills. BUT it has to be done with Bill of the same color, so boohoohoohooohoo. Very good effect, though... me loves it mucho.

-Kev

illusionist - January 16, 2005 05:00 PM (GMT)
hey kevin you beat me lol I was about to recommend david regal bill switch lol.. yeah the only think is you have to use a bill with the same colour damn lol.. or else it is really a good bill switch.. ^_^

zinally - January 18, 2005 10:30 AM (GMT)
You can obtain instructions for Arthur Tivoli's bill switch directly from Arthur. (I think Tivoli's switch is great!)

Chosse's bill switch can be learned from Ron Bauer's little book "Bar Bill Stunt." (It is another switch that does not use a T-tip.)

You can learn Roger Klause's famous "100 dollar bill switch" from his manuscript of the same name. (Uses a T-tip)Also, Michael Ammar's old book "Encore III" includes complete instructions for Klause's switch.

Jay Sankey has a number of videos that explain a Klause-style bill switch using a T-tip.

Just for your info

Huron - January 19, 2005 01:34 PM (GMT)
Richard Sanders' Visi-bill is the way to go!!
Sean Field's raped Sanders' routine. They use the same method, and the use of a TT makes handling much easier in Sanders' routine. Plus there's a double bill switch included with the Visi-bill DVD that is just MINDBLOWING. Get Visi-bill, you won't regret it.

Huron

Tinkle - January 20, 2005 09:25 AM (GMT)
I believe Jay Scott Berry has something for that but doesn't use a TT. Have to use another gimmick though. Personally find it much easier to use than a TT.

BuaYa - January 20, 2005 12:46 PM (GMT)
Haiz. Use a cla**** pa** plus sh***** **ss.

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Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gordie @ Jan 16 2005, 01:24 AM)
i cant think of any ungimmicked ones which are good.
and why not TTs?

Getting a TT to match the colour of the skin is one big headache. Plus, there's always the additional consideration of having to ditch the thing after the performance.

I know how to get it done with a TT. I've devised my own (dodgy...lol) handling which I performed in class about 17 years ago.

Not that TTs aren't effective, but I'm trying to learn new techniques that eliminates the use of it.

Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kevin @ Jan 16 2005, 03:11 PM)
Sean Fields has one called "C.R.E.A.M" that's quite visual (looks a bit like Sanders' Visi-bill), and it doesn't use a TT. It uses something else, though... so if you like it, burr. If you don't, bargh.

David Regal (I love this guy!) has a gaffless, gimmickless, fully-thought out routine called the Origami Bills. BUT it has to be done with Bill of the same color, so boohoohoohooohoo. Very good effect, though... me loves it mucho.

-Kev

Not really a fan of Sean Field's work after I read the manuscript for his TnR routine "Fusion." While in certain ways similar to "Unripped," I feel that not enough thought has been put in his finalised effect. Maybe I'm just being biased, but I think I'll go check out David Regal's instead.

Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (illusionist @ Jan 17 2005, 01:00 AM)
hey kevin you beat me lol I was about to recommend david regal bill switch lol.. yeah the only think is you have to use a bill with the same colour damn lol.. or else it is really a good bill switch.. ^_^

Hey Shifu, you know what I want! *wink wink*

Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Huron @ Jan 19 2005, 09:34 PM)
Richard Sanders' Visi-bill is the way to go!!
Sean Field's raped Sanders' routine. They use the same method, and the use of a TT makes handling much easier in Sanders' routine. Plus there's a double bill switch included with the Visi-bill DVD that is just MINDBLOWING. Get Visi-bill, you won't regret it.

Huron

You mean Sanders' routine requires a TT? Does he include a handling that doesn't involve the TT? If so, I think I'll get that.

After getting Ray Cosby's Impossible Card Magic, I've got absolute confidence in your opinion on instructional material. THAT was good stuff!

Can't do Raise-rise :wacko:













Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (zinally @ Jan 18 2005, 06:30 PM)
You can obtain instructions for Arthur Tivoli's bill switch directly from Arthur. (I think Tivoli's switch is great!)


Whereabouts can I find this?

Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tinkle @ Jan 20 2005, 05:25 PM)
I believe Jay Scott Berry has something for that but doesn't use a TT. Have to use another gimmick though. Personally find it much easier to use than a TT.

Any idea what's the name of that switch he uses?

Moondust - January 20, 2005 07:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (BuaYa @ Jan 20 2005, 08:46 PM)
Haiz. Use a cla**** pa** plus sh***** **ss.

[This post has been edited due to exposure. Thanks to Gordie for reporting the post]

It's not as simple as just applying the P****s and expect the effect to be good. Main movements are the core of an effect, yes. And many switches inculcate similar moves. My request for additional material is to make sure that I have enough knowledge to make these core moves work cohesively in order to constitute to a good effect.

I'll probably need this knowledge more than you because I haven't received any instruction at all whatsover pertaining to bill switches, that's why I need you people to forgive my ignorance.

Considering an ACR routine...when someone who's a newbie in this field wants more material to study this routine comprehensively, telling him just to use DLs and Tilts isn't enough.

Hope you can understand this problem I'm facing.

Huron - January 22, 2005 06:55 PM (GMT)
I still believe that Visi-Bill is the way to go.
The gimmick Jay Scott Berry uses is the same one for Sean Field's Cream. That gimmick really restricts your movement. I'm sure you don't want your fingers all cramped up during a billswitch.

Moondust, a TT is one of the most deceptive gimmicks ever. As long as you don't do the cliche "Vanishing Hanky", nobody will EVER suspect it. I've tested it myself by wearing it for the whole day in school and even shaking my friends hands with it. Nobody noticed or suspected a thing. It's like doing a Fa*s* Tr**sfe* in coin magic. If you don't 'believe' what you're doing, it just won't work for you, and you'll never look natural enough. Trust the TT.

Bill Malone's On The Loose Volume 1 also teaches a great billswitch for his Bill To Lemon routine! Very very good material.

Huron

Moondust - January 23, 2005 05:47 PM (GMT)
Thanx again Huron. I think I'm gonna look for a Vernet TT or ask Cynwell to recommend one for me. Haven't touched one of those for ages.

I'll go check out the gimmicked and ungimmicked variants of this effect. I guess certain aspects of magic's like this: what's available in the market is source material for you to create and adapt to your own handling.

You've been a great help. I think I've gotten all the sources I require (or can afford! :lol: ) from yourself and all the members in this thread. Thank you all for your advice! :)

cyngapore - January 23, 2005 06:19 PM (GMT)
2 TT i really recommend.
Vernet classic
thumbs up ( this looks like a real, ask morphine he has one)

Moondust - January 23, 2005 06:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (cyngapore @ Jan 24 2005, 02:19 AM)
2 tt i really recommend.
Vernet classic
thumbs up ( this looks like a real, ask morphine he has one)

Any choice of colour, i.e. to suit different skin tones?




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