does roughing spray work on plastic cards?, or only normal ones

water works on plastic cards lol :P

Hmmm. Don't waste the fluid...

ok thnks

why wanna use plactic cards? when i first began magic, i use cheapo cards.. plastics and paper... but once i get to understnad the magical things USPC can do... man.. its worth changing to them man. They are the best. use good stuff on good card man. :)

haha.. many years ago all i had were Singapore Airlines decks. they were kind of smooth too, but after a while of just playing normal card games they wilted and died. then of course i found out about USPCC and started using bikes. never changed since then. i think plastic cards are not suitable for magic or flourishes..

to do good magic, settle for nothing but the best.

lol.. ok guys thanks, but here in australia bikes cost like $14 :(

are they really that good?

ps i havent got any

Not really. Unless you are planning to get a lot of bike gimmicks, i suggest you save that money.

I used exclusively Queen's Slippers when I was there. No air-cushion or any of that but that didn't bother me very much.
The bad thing is Queen's Slippers are bridge size so you might have a little problem adjusting when you switch to the slightly bigger poker size that's the norm in most other places. And it's really tough when you wanna use gimmick cards.
But Queen's Slippers are so very recognisable there and that is a very strong advantage. In fact, if you go to your friend's place and you ask for a deck of cards, chances are they have a deck of queen's slippers. That can be a basis for a lot of ideas isn't it ;)
And queens's slippers are good quality and cheap too if you get them in wooly's. And some decks of queens' slippers comes with extra 11, 12 and 13 SPOT/NUMBER cards. I loved that, it's have having free gimmicked cards and with a little imagination, there's some effects you can do with those as well.

So really dun worry abt getting the $14 bicycles, get 5 packs of QS with that same money instead.

hey... i was in aus too... when i was studying.. yeah the bikes there cost heaps. aboe 10 AUD. luckily i didnt get any coz i was fortunate enough to meet a sporean there.. magician and he sold me AUD5 for one.. i bought everything he had. lol... hmm i guess he made a lil of of it.. but.. i was desperate for cards then. ehehe

oh by the way.. one of the blue decks.... the cards are kinda purple in colour... real cool... i think it must have been sumting wronng wrong with the colour.. but it looks cool. i open it up and decided not to use it... coz its so unique. anyone have this experience?

eh... i think i :off: hmmm

ok.. anyway ryman, if u in oz i dont think u should buy the $14 bikes unless u are desperate. settle for cheaper ones first and then stock up when u get back spore.

hi thanks for your post.

in your post your last paragraph said

"ok.. anyway ryman, if u in oz i dont think u should buy the $14 bikes unless u are desperate. settle for cheaper ones first and then stock up when u get back spore. "

I live in australia, but my mum's brother, and all other relatives lives in singapore, my mum's brother comes over somtimes for business trips. could you tell me where in singapore you can buy the cheapest bicycle cards, and for how much so that i can ask him to buy some next time he comes over. thanks

ryan